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re: Colorado vaccination site shuts down after 11 'adverse reactions' to Johnson & Johnson jab

Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:14 am to
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:14 am to
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no vaccine has ever showed long term negative effects past a few months
this is a completely novel type of vaccine. Your statement about other vaccines is irrelevant
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42004 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:16 am to
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And there probably won't be, either. Why? Because no vaccine has ever showed long term negative effects past a few months.


How many of those of of the mRNA variety?

Look, you believe in the vaccines whole-heartedly...cool. If you choose to take one...cool.

I don’t trust the safety of them as of yet, and as such, I am going to pass.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19219 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:17 am to
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VAERS received 2,794 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine


Which proves absolutely nothing about causation. If you take 100,000 people and give them a sugar pill, some of them are going to die immediately after. Does this mean the sugar pill caused their deaths? No, it means they were going to die anyway and the pill was pure coincidence. But it's even worse than that. The sample size we have now is MUCH larger than my 100,000 example. Tens of millions have been vaccinated across the world.

Here's what CDC says about VAERS as of two days ago:

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To date, VAERS has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines.


Oh, but it's all a conspiracy! CDC is lying because they and Bill Gates want to implant you with a microchip to track you. Oh no, that's not right. They are trying to eradicate the population. Yeah, that's it. They want to track you before they eradicate you!

(None of the conspiracy theorists ever explain why VAERS would even exist if the CDC wanted to kill you. Why would they even have VAERS in the first place? Wouldn't they want to keep all these deaths quiet?).


Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88673 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:18 am to
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Nice deflection


You deflected first
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In short, I don’t trust the government either (and nowhere did I say that I did).


You certainly imply it when you say you don't trust this vaccine that Operation Warp Speed got us so quickly.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88673 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:20 am to
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that is not exactly what was said. Your are misquoting


I mean, wow.
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Then he provided a link that explicitly answered your question.


The frick it did.

Yea, yall are just helpless. Time to let yall be.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79111 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:24 am to
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J&J is a single shot, so it’s half the effort and all of the social benefits. Pretty attractive if you aren’t high risk


But it's also the new kid on the block. Millions of people have received Moderna and Pfizer.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
3913 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:25 am to
I have had Covid. Antibodies in place. No experimental jabs for me. Just loading up on Vitamin D.
All the sheep say bleeeee.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4600 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:27 am to
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Why are you so trusting of a bloated fed gov signing off on something?
Like a vaccine?
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5430 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:38 am to
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Oh, but it's all a conspiracy! CDC is lying because they and Bill Gates want to implant you with a microchip to track you
Nobody in this thread said anything like that. However, I am iffy of any new Bill Gates products. His business model is to rush out an untested product and let the public figure out the bugs, then fix them with a patch. Only problem is most things that can result from a bad medical treatment can't get fixed that way.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9902 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:11 pm to
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Moderna and Pfizer have like 95% efficacy rates and Johnson & Johnson only has like 75%


The vaccines were trialed in different locations and different time periods, with J&J doing theirs after the rise of variants. Can’t really do straight comparisons between them.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42004 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:03 pm to
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Here's what CDC says about VAERS as of two days ago:


And if I don’t trust the CDC?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42004 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:06 pm to
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You deflected first


This didn’t happen. Ironically, lying about it is yet another deflection.

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You certainly imply it when you say you don't trust this vaccine that Operation Warp Speed got us so quickly.


How does this:

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In short, I don’t trust the government either (and nowhere did I say that I did).


What does the above imply anything other than what is stated?
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 1:09 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42004 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:08 pm to
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Oh, but it's all a conspiracy! CDC is lying because they and Bill Gates want to implant you with a microchip to track you. Oh no, that's not right. They are trying to eradicate the population. Yeah, that's it. They want to track you before they eradicate you!


This is to deflect from any real debate. It is rather sad and a poor reflection on that poster imho.
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5430 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:42 pm to
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This is to deflect from any real debate. It is rather sad and a poor reflection on that poster i
If he can't understand that ALL vaccines have previously had to undergo successful animal and long term testing to determine they were "safe" he is either trolling or beyond help. Even "safe" vaccines like polio hurt people. Vaccine courts have paid out billions in injury claims in just the last few years.
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