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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:08 am to jimmy the leg
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Why are you so trustful of big pharma?
Why are you so trusting of a bloated fed gov signing off on something?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:10 am to LNCHBOX
quote:My point is that some people who are saying "I got the vaccine and no problems" may find out they are terribly wrong. Actual testing and data on previously attempted mRNA vaccines CONFIRM unacceptable risk of contracting auto-immune disease. You really don't want that.
Can I get some Powerball numbers while you're at it?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:14 am to PurpleandGeauld
quote:
My point is that some people who are saying "I got the vaccine and no problems" may find out they are terribly wrong.
No, you said they will get side effects worse than COVID. You made a statement of fact.
quote:
Actual testing and data on previously attempted mRNA vaccines CONFIRM unacceptable risk of contracting auto-immune disease. You really don't want that.
Gonna need your links to this supposed actual testing that confirms unacceptable risks.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:18 am to LNCHBOX
quote:yes it is possible. We're already seeing some signs of that. Who knows what the long term effects will be.
you said they will get side effects worse than COVID. You made a statement of fact
quote:so you don't know that mrna has been around for years?
Gonna need your links to this supposed actual testing that confirms unacceptable risks
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:21 am to LNCHBOX
quote:The number I saw was about 1 in 150,000 which is exceedingly rare, I agree, but still above the natural case rate for CVST. Norway's incidence rate was 1 in 24,000.
Look at the actual numbers and then tell me why they would even suspect a link
From WSJ
quote:
That is where the balance of risks behind these decisions is most pertinent. A University of Cambridge analysis shows that if Covid-19 infection is accelerating, with new cases being detected at a rate of 200 per 100,000 people a day, for instance, then you might expect seven out of every 100,000 20-to-29-year-olds infected to need intensive care over a four-month period. If daily incidence is lower, at 0.2 cases for every 100,000 people, roughly where the U.K. was in March, then you might expect 0.8 intensive care admissions. The same analysis put the risk of a severe blood clot as a consequence of vaccination in people of the same age group at 1.1 per 100,000 doses administered.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:22 am to bfniii
quote:
yes it is possible.
You didn't say possible. You stated as fact.
quote:
so you don't know that mrna has been around for years?
Sweet non-answer.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:35 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Here is a "statement of fact": VAERS received 2,794 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.
No, you said they will get side effects worse than COVID. You made a statement of fact.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:37 am to PurpleandGeauld
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Here is a "statement of fact": VAERS received 2,794 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.
And we trust medical reporting now?
And I guess you're just gonna keep jumping all over the place hoping to finally make a point?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:37 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Online Medical Research
Gonna need your links to this supposed actual testing that confirms unacceptable risks.
quote:
mRNA- [15] and DNA-based vaccine technologies [9, 16] are being implemented in humans, especially as vaccine candidates. Several concerns about mRNA vaccine safety have been identified besides its promising potential advantages. The most important risks include the possibility that mRNA vaccines may generate strong type I interferon responses that could lead to inflammation and autoimmune conditions [17].
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:40 am to PurpleandGeauld
Can you post where the say what you claim they said?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:45 am to LNCHBOX
quote:that wasn't me but the person was correct. There have been some people who either died or had horrific reactions way worse than typical c19 symptoms. That is a fact
You didn't say possible. You stated as fact
quote:You're the one who didn't know. Why have they been around for years but not approved?
Sweet non-answer
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:46 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Not at all. But you originally asked why someone wouldn't take an mRNA vaccine. I know for a fact that the "100,000's of deaths" attributed to Covid are BS. They are counting gunshot, car fatalities, people who actually died of terminal cancer, end stage renal disease, already on hospice for whatever already terminal sickness as covid deaths. A little simple math shows less people actually died of covid than they did of seasonal flu in 2019.
And we trust medical reporting now?
But you want me to take an un-properly tested medical treatment into my body for it based on "medical reporting."
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 10:48 am
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:46 am to PurpleandGeauld
quote:and that's just the deaths. That's not any other severe reactions or unknown long term effects
VAERS received 2,794 reports of death among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:47 am to LNCHBOX
quote:do we have a reason to distrust those numbers reported by medical professionals from across the country?
And we trust medical reporting now?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:50 am to bfniii
quote:
that wasn't me but the person was correct. There have been some people who either died or had horrific reactions way worse than typical c19 symptoms. That is a fact
That person was not correct. they said 100% that someone will get autoimmune disease that is worse than COVID. That ignores that COVID can kill you, much in the way that you are selectively only talking about mild cases of COVID to make your point.
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You're the one who didn't know. Why have they been around for years but not approved?
What didn't I know?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:54 am to jimmy the leg
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Can you show me any long term studies on these vaccines? I’m not aware of any.
No I can't because the vaccine has only been approved for like 4 months. The trial participants got vaccinated like 9 months ago or so. So far, no long term effects in the trial participants.
And there probably won't be, either. Why? Because no vaccine has ever showed long term negative effects past a few months. This is why the FDA wanted the trials to follow the patients for 2 months before they would consider approving it. The trials showed no side-effects at all past a few days.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:10 am to LNCHBOX
quote:
Why are you so trustful of big pharma?
Why are you so trusting of a bloated fed gov signing off on something?
Nice deflection. In short, I don’t trust the government either (and nowhere did I say that I did).
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 11:11 am
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:11 am to LNCHBOX
quote:that is not exactly what was said. Your are misquoting. Here is the statement
they said 100% that someone will get autoimmune disease that is worse than COVID.
quote:explain what is controversial about that statement
Most will not have adverse effects, but there will be a fair amount of people after a few years who will have auto immune diseases which is way worse than covid
quote:apparently that mrna treatment not being new yet not approved.
What didn't I know?
quote:yes he did. Twice. His first response had an implied answer/question to you that you still haven't answered. Then he provided a link that explicitly answered your question. Slow down and think this through.
He straight up didn't answer the question I asked him
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:12 am to AUstar
quote:not this one specifically. Mrna in general
the vaccine has only been approved for like 4 months
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