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re: CNN: First charges filed by Mueller

Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:24 am to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:24 am to
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Manafort makes a deal to turn on the Podestas. That's not hard to figure out.
It is for the Constitutional expert Mensamcgrath.
This post was edited on 10/28/17 at 9:26 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:24 am to
I figured after last week they would need to hurry up and get some R on some charge so they can distract from the disaster this lie has become for Clinton and the media.

How Mueller is still allowed to do this is unreal to me, and I can't stand Trump.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:26 am to
It's not like people were naive and thought politics wasn't dirty, but now that we see how dirty it is..... yeesh.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:28 am to
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It's not like people were naive and thought politics wasn't dirty, but now that we see how dirty it is..... yeesh.



Dirty?

No, THIS is scary.

Meuller is just as corrupt as the rest of them. We know this now. Yet the fox is watching the hen house and can now hand out indictments when HE should be the one indicted.

After watching the Obama administration get away with murder for 8 years, this may make this look like child's play.
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:31 am to
This is true. It's why he moved early. He is there to protect secrets and his butt.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:32 am to
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Obtuse Juice hath emerged from under his rock only to be crushed again.

What are you babbling about, Doc? The scope of Mueller's investigation has been discussed ad nauseum here. Why would I bother explaining it again to another politard chessboard pigeon? Now get ready for 7
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:37 am to
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I figured after last week they would need to hurry up and get some R on some charge so they can distract from the disaster this lie has become for Clinton and the media. How Mueller is still allowed to do this is unreal to me, and I can't stand Trump.


This is correct. I obviously did support Trump, but that is neither here nor there. This entire special prosecutor, now special counsel, and grand jury system should offend civil libertarians, and this is not ideology or party specific. Frankly the entire federal criminal justice system needs overhauled. The framers intended grand juries for specific reasons, and it has morphed into something entirely different.

To be clear, if Trump, or any of his people are guilty of something, this needs looked at. But to have unfettered power to dig back years looking for anything is an entirely different thing. Especially since we have an appearance of conflict, and this is very clearly spelled out in federal code, and being ignored.

This is America, one doesn't get to pick which set of laws they follow and which set of laws apply to them. But government does get to pick, and so does Mr. Mueller.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:37 am to
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Doc? The scope of Mueller's investigation has been discussed ad nauseum here. Why would I bother explaining it again to another politard chessboard pigeon


You only have to explain it effectively once (you can't )
Posted by MButterfly
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:42 am to
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Iowa Golfer


I applaud you!
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:46 am to
All you have to do is read Rosensteins letter. It's very simple. Mueller can investigate anything he finds in the course of his main investigation into Russian collusion.

Which is why this is likely charges against Manafort for something unrelated to the Trump campaign colluding with Russia. Move along.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:49 am to
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All you have to do is read Rosensteins letter. It's very simple. Mueller can investigate anything he finds in the course of his main investigation into Russian collusion


Nope. That's not what it says. Try to read it again.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:50 am to
Pigeon
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:51 am to
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Which is why this is likely charges against Manafort for something unrelated to the Trump campaign colluding with Russia. Move along


I suspect something like this and if so, that pretty much guts the Russia collusion thing.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:52 am to
Illiterate
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:56 am to
I suppose you've just ignored all of the complaints, even on here, about the breadth of Mueller's scope. But I'd love to hear you spell it out. I already have.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:57 am to
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suppose you've just ignored all of the complaints, even on here, about the breadth of Mueller's scope. But I'd love to hear you spell it out. I already have


You misquoted the letter. If you want to make an argument counter to the plain language of the letter, you're free to do so. I'll stick with what it says.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 10:00 am to
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Well he wasn't authorized to investigate things not directly related to Russian election meddling
That's What you said it says, and it's patently false. Quit spamming up the thread.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 10:08 am to
It doesn't say only things that arise directly related to the Russia investigations?
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 10:13 am to
Juice is banking on something like the two scoops of ice cream scandal. Let him hang on to this a little longer.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 10/28/17 at 10:29 am to
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It doesn't say only things that arise directly related to the Russia investigations?
Technically, no, but that's not even what you said the first go round
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Well he wasn't authorized to investigate things not directly related to Russian election meddling
This has a completely different meaning, but you knew that

Checkmate, pigeon
This post was edited on 10/28/17 at 10:36 am
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