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Climate Change/Fires in the West

Posted on 9/13/20 at 8:48 am
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
3975 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 8:48 am
So we all know Democrats and the Green Party are going to push Global warming these next few weeks because of the fires, and I have a few questions, as I am uneducated on the subject.

How did climate change start these fires?
For a section in our country that gets a lot of rain, the Pacific Northwest, how are things claimed to be so dry?
Do you think this could be agenda driven fueled fires, to run people out of the rural areas? Agenda 21 or something like that?
Do you think these fires started accidentally or on purpose? And if on purpose, to create a climate change narrative leading up to the election? Does the timing seem nefarious?
Why aren’t the elected officials talking about the prevention of these fires starting and what they plan to do about it? Whether it’s climate change, carelessness or purposely.


Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 8:49 am to
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How did climate change start these fires?


They are arresting arsonists in California, Oregon, and Utah.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22501 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 8:49 am to
Why? Because Democrats.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20421 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 8:50 am to
They are going to have a tough time explaining the arson part of this story. When you have images of arsonists at blm rallies, it's going to be hard to explain away.

*not before Cnn runs the narrative of Trump's global warming
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49178 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 8:53 am to
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How did climate change start these fires?

They're saying because of the so called temperature rise, it makes places hotter and dryer, thus causing normal fires to be much larger and uneasy to control.

But remember, any hurricane, avalanche, mud slide or stubbed toe is blamed on global warming/climate change.


This post was edited on 9/13/20 at 8:55 am
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21007 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 8:55 am to
Amazing how not a single person in charge of the states on fire want to take responsibility for the fact that they have done Zero Forrest management in 20 years. There is so much underbrush, that nature’s solution has always been wildfire. But no, it’s climate change!!! Idiots...
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73827 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 8:56 am to
Cause it was 100 degrees like always in August so it must be climate change that started the fires
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
3975 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 9:07 am to
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They are arresting arsonists in California, Oregon, and Utah.


While elected officials in those areas are going on all the Sunday morning shows blaming it on climate change, not why or how these fires started. Isn’t that odd?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54212 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 9:10 am to
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Climate Change/Fires in the West


I'd agree but not in the way you insinuate. The climate of politics changing in those states is definitely responsible for the fires. It's called not managing your forests properly. Thank you Sierra Club idiots.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6527 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 9:23 am to
When environmentalists intentionally seek laws to prevent access roads from being maintained through the parks and government owned land. Combine the inability to use roads and the use of ponds, steams, rivers and lakes as water sources ...there is no ability to stay on site and reduce the spread of fires. You rely on planes and helicopters flying back and forth to fight. In wind situations, that is a losing proposition.

Meanwhile ...when the Electric Utility is faced with an economy that featured NO EXPANSION for eight years (Obama), things have to be put on the back burner. Clearing of foliage under power lines was stopped. Renewal and upgrading of equipment on the back burner.
PGE was driven into bankruptcy because of the policies of the state. Portland Gas and Electric will go down, as will Southern California Edison. Insane policies passed by Politicians that can barely make it the bathroom caused this ....nothing else.
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
3975 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 9:25 am to
I believe the forests were mismanaged and bad policies carried out but I also think the fires were purposely started knowing full well what the impact would be. Now they can push climate change and the new green deal even stronger.
This post was edited on 9/13/20 at 9:27 am
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6835 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 9:26 am to
They need to clean up the under brush like they have been told for years. Controlled burns saves lives, trees and animals
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 9:32 am to
The left used to call it Global Warming, then they realized they if they said Climate Change they could blame every weather event on it and not just events because of warm weather.

It's all a huge scam to funnel money into green technology and throw trillions in the toilet overseas.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 9:37 am to
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They're saying because of the so called temperature rise, it makes places hotter and dryer, thus causing normal fires to be much larger and uneasy to control


This plus the fact that they stopped/reduced clearing dry brush and doing their usual fire prevention maintenance.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19539 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 9:38 am to
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Amazing how not a single person in charge of the states on fire want to take responsibility for the fact that they have done Zero Forrest management in 20 years. There is so much underbrush, that nature’s solution has always been wildfire. But no, it’s climate change!!! Idiots...


It's been more than 20 years in the making, but yes intentional forest management for all the wrong "naturalist" and eco-nut reasons has created the situation. Debris build up, thickets of dry undergrowth, dead trees, no thinning of the forest, and no fire breaks have all made a tinder-box. People where not even allowed to gather twigs and branches for fire wood. Protecting the spotted owl, mice and snakes as part of the natural ecosystem were the claimed causes. Now they are crispy critters.

Yeah, there is an arson craze going around very similar to that in Australia where the arsonists were often the same people protesting for more eco-nut forest mismanagement.

This post was edited on 9/13/20 at 9:43 am
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3263 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 12:31 pm to
I would say the vast majority of these fires and the magnitude of which they are able to get too has been brought on by the earth lovers own policies.

They want to leave as much land as they can untouched, as if man has never been there....so all the underbrush dies and then dries up just ready to be ignited....one fire gets started, embers start getting blown, ignites all this dried up dead underbrush and the fire rages on making it extremely difficult to maintain.

If these frickers would do responsible land conservation, this dead underbrush would get cleaned out....which would remove the fuel for these fires....ultimately limiting the intensity and size at which these fires can spread.

Oh and OMB
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