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re: CIA asset Peter Zeihan explains why every prediction he’s made for months was wrong

Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:00 am to
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:00 am to
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Democrat internal polling had Biden losing 400EVs to Trump. Why the hell do you think they ousted him? “Hurr Biden dropped out so it threw off the prediction!”




These predictions were well before the debate



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The primary problem with any of this is it ignores any given nation’s ability to reverse or adapt to trends. There’s a bunch of other problems as well.


Like I said, plenty of variables. We do not have any data on this and how to handle it. He actually says plenty of times that we do not have any models for this. The only country to work off of is Japan who started dealing with it first.

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xcuse me if I have my doubts that Russia and China are going to completely collapse in the next couple of decades because a guy with a man bun confidently asserts that they will.


Maybe not completely collapse but math is math. You cannot do like Russia did and throw bodies in a meat grinder for two wars and expect to catch back up
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:00 am to
He sneaks and weaves ridiculous statements together with coherent and sober statements and gets away with it because of his tone and cadence

Makes many points about demographic shifts and the danger the Democratic coalition is in, and then in the same breath says we will have a constitutional crisis because Trump is showing signs of losing his mind and his ability to finish out a term will be “vanishingly small”, and no one in his cabinet will have the courage to 25th him.

Ok. So his point on the cabinet not having the nerve to oust him is probably valid, but it hinges on the assertion he makes that he has a “vanishingly small” chance to finish the term with his mind, something a tiny number of people would agree with. And then it completely ignores THE DEMOCRATS DID THE EXACT SAME THING THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. Biden was brain dead and none of them did anything about it until it was too late, AND HE’S STILL PRESIDENT NOW, giving Ukraine immunity to use our missiles.

This guy is a fraud and deserves no respect, and people trying to rationalize his takes ITT need to have their head examined and go to church
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 9:07 am
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:01 am to
lol
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:01 am to
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The geopolitical Sam Harris


Harris has turned into an emotional loon
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:03 am to
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His off-the-cuff knowledge of virtually every supply chain is pretty damn impressive.


Does anyone ever follow up to check his stuff and see if it’s accurate? Please link something if so
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:03 am to
Well he could be like SFP and take a victory lap regardless of repeatedly being shown to be wrong.



Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38696 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:03 am to
I disagree eith him on trump and dementia or whatever he said. He cites data well so the issue may come from that instead of him when it comes to those conversations
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:05 am to
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I think Zeihan is an interesting listen but I think he makes insane predictions that when you step back and look at the overall net result you think “hmm, the logic is there but I just don’t see that outcome coming true.”


He provides information to administrative state employees like climate scientist provide climate "science" narratives to politicians that want to pass spending on climate change projects.

Administrative state employees are seeking information to confirm their future spending wants. Peter provides it.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:05 am to
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Harris has turned into an emotional loon


And Zeihan hasn’t?

The both do the exact same thing, mask their blind irrational partisanship behind a veneer of measured tone and logical fallacies.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4712 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:06 am to
Zeihan is just another in a long list of very smart people who were broken by Trump. TDS is a real thing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298834 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:06 am to
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And Zeihan hasn’t?

Jesus christ, where the frick did you come up with that?

Where did I mention Zelhan?

Can you actually stick to one topic at a time?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298834 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:07 am to
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Well he could be like SFP and take a victory lap regardless of repeatedly being shown to be wrong.


Go read the SPLC thread.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:10 am to
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Jesus christ, where the frick did you come up with that?

Where did I mention Zelhan?

Can you actually stick to one topic at a time?


Have you lost your mind?

I compared him (Zeihan) to Sam Harris

You come back and say Sam Harris is emotional

I come back and say so is Zeihan

Now you post this garbage as a response. Like does your brain not work correctly? How can you not follow a 3 point line of argument. Honestly I’m baffled
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 9:11 am
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:11 am to
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Glad I don't have those problems.


Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38696 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:11 am to
Maybe. I just do not think their is rational debate going on here
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298834 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:11 am to
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I compared him (Zeihan) to Sam Harris


I said not a word about Zelhan. It was a drive by comment. You dont have to defend every fricking thing you say.

This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 9:12 am
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:12 am to
HE’S THE SUBJECT OF THE THREAD

I WAS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP SAM HARRIS TOO
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 9:13 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298834 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:13 am to
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HE’S THE SUBJECT OF THE THREAD


IT WAS A DRIVE BY COMMENT, WOMAN
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:17 am to
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38696 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:17 am to
It's just sauce bro
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