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re: Chromosome Study: All Men Can Be Traced to One Man
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:32 pm to JakeTheDog
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:32 pm to JakeTheDog
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I want to know what exploded in the big bang and where whatever that was came from. Also, what made it explode?
Hmmmm..... Science can't answer this one, there must be something more. I can't imagine a meaningless universe where everything is left to chance in an ugly and indifferent existence. God must exist, and if God exists then he would probably want to save and protect his creation, perhaps by sending his son. Yep, Christianity seems to be the only answer here. Have fun worshiping your false idols of pseudo-science and suppositions only to be relatives of chimps. If any of you want to open your hearts to God, holler at me.
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Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:35 pm to sugar71
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Because one is the product of stone age superstitions/ fairy tales/myths while the other is the exact opposite.
Awesome. then maybe you can answer my question below since nobody else seems to want to try.
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I want to know what exploded in the big bang and where whatever that was came from. Also, what made it explode?
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Unless I'm mistaken an explosion is when something reacts to something else. That means there had to already be at least two things for the big bang to even happen. So, what were these two things and where did they come from?
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:37 pm to JakeTheDog
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I'll ask you since my question from earlier was ignored. Someone said something about the Big Bang. I asked what was it in the big bang that went bang. So, what was it? There had to be something there to go bang. What was it and where did it come from?
The big bang was not a bang/explosion in space... it was an "explosion" of spacetime itself. If it were a typical explosion as we know them, when we measure the rates that galaxies are moving away from one another, we would see that they were all moving away from a central point. We do not see this. Instead, what we see is that from any particular location you take the measurements, it appears as though you are at the center of the explosion, and that the further away a galaxy is, the faster it appears to be moving away from you. This means that space itself is growing, so that if we "rewind" this process, at some point it had to be minutely small.
I know this doesn't answer all of your questions, but the honest answer is we don't have all the answers. If I had to guess, I would imagine that tiny ball was "made of" pure energy.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:40 pm to JakeTheDog
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Unless I'm mistaken an explosion is when something reacts to something else. That means there had to already be at least two things for the big bang to even happen. So, what were these two things and where did they come from?
As I mentioned in my last post, you are mistaken since the big bang was not an explosion of "stuff", it was a rapid expansion of spacetime itself that continues today.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:42 pm to JakeTheDog
Don't think of it in terms of a combustion explosion. The Doppler effect allows astronomers to detect the direction of movement of matter in space and the point at which it expands from.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:46 pm to Korkstand
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The big bang was not a bang/explosion in space... it was an "explosion" of spacetime itself. If it were a typical explosion as we know them, when we measure the rates that galaxies are moving away from one another, we would see that they were all moving away from a central point. We do not see this. Instead, what we see is that from any particular location you take the measurements, it appears as though you are at the center of the explosion, and that the further away a galaxy is, the faster it appears to be moving away from you. This means that space itself is growing, so that if we "rewind" this process, at some point it had to be minutely small.
I know this doesn't answer all of your questions, but the honest answer is we don't have all the answers. If I had to guess, I would imagine that tiny ball was "made of" pure energy.
I understand the whole theory behind the big bang. I just find it severely lacking as an explanation of how everything was created. For starters, does Science not tell us that energy cannot be created or destroyed? That being the case energy had to already be there for the big bang to happen. Where did that energy come from? And what did this energy react to that caused the big bang to happen? Something had to trigger it. If there was nothing but a tiny ball of pure energy and nothing else in existence then there would have never been a big bang because there was nothing there to make this tiny ball of pure energy react to it. So what else was there?
This is why I do not buy the theory that the big bang was the start of everything. By it's every nature for the big bang to happen at least two things already have to exist and interact with one another.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:49 pm to Korkstand
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As I mentioned in my last post, you are mistaken since the big bang was not an explosion of "stuff", it was a rapid expansion of spacetime itself that continues today.
I'm not picturing a standard chemical (or even nuclear) explosion akin to the Death Star exploding. As I said, I know what the big bang was supposed to be. I understand how science gives us evidence of it. I just don't think it explains how everything was created.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:52 pm to JakeTheDog
The common examples of states of energy on earth make it difficult to imagine the forms common to other parts of the universe. Just as you observe water boiling at different temperatures with varying atmospheric pressure, or water changing phases with temperature.....energy/matter presents very different properties in other environments.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:53 pm to JakeTheDog
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. I just don't think it explains how everything was created
Science doesn't claim to explain everything or where it came from.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:53 pm to Korkstand
I would respond to some of these post but you're just killing it...seriously dropping some straight knowledge. 
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:54 pm to JakeTheDog
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Where did that energy come from? And what did this energy react to that caused the big bang to happen? Something had to trigger it. If there was nothing but a tiny ball of pure energy and nothing else in existence then there would have never been a big bang because there was nothing there to make this tiny ball of pure energy react to it. So what else was there?
Like I said, we don't know all of the answers. Some think the big bang was just the latest of a long series of bangs and crunches. As in, at some point our universe might begin to contract, and as soon as it crunches down to that small ball of energy it will immediately bang again. Others think our universe is the "back side" of another universe's black hole. Others think our bang was the only one, and the universe will die a long, slow heat death.
Really the only thing that is certain is that, based on everything we know about physics so far, at some point in the distance past everything in the universe was extremely close together.
This post was edited on 2/6/14 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:57 pm to Upperaltiger06
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The common examples of states of energy on earth make it difficult to imagine the forms common to other parts of the universe. Just as you observe water boiling at different temperatures with varying atmospheric pressure, or water changing phases with temperature.....energy/matter presents very different properties in other environments
But that does not change the fact that energy cannot be created or destroyed, thus the Law of Conservation of Energy. This means every bit of energy in the universe has been there since the beginning of the universe and will be there until the end of the universe. That being the case, where did this energy come from? There is nothing that can create or destroy it. But it had to come from somewhere. Where?
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:01 pm to Korkstand
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Like I said, we don't know all of the answers. Some think the big bang was just the latest of a long series of bangs and crunches. As in, at some point our universe might begin to contract, and as soon as it crunches down to that small ball of energy it will immediately bang again. Others think our universe is the "back side" of another universe's black hole. Others think our bang was the only one, and the universe will die a long, slow heat death.
Really the only thing that is certain is that, based on everything we know about physics so far, at some point in the distance past everything in the universe was extremely close together.
And this bothers me greatly because there are many who mistakenly think the big bang theory is some sort of proof of how everything was created. But if you think about it logically, it's impossible for the big bang to actually be the "creation event".
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:03 pm to JakeTheDog
From right here son.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:06 pm to JakeTheDog
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That being the case, where did this energy come from? There is nothing that can create or destroy it. But it had to come from somewhere. Where?
This question has been answered multiple times already - we don't know. So obviously God did it, right? That's the point you're trying to make?
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:11 pm to weedGOKU666
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This question has been answered multiple times already - we don't know. So obviously God did it, right? That's the point you're trying to make?
Not trying to make any point for or against God. I just like pushing the envelope and asking probing questions that make people actually have to think.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:12 pm to weedGOKU666
"We don't know" isn't really much of an answer. It just means you can't fully explain your theory.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:13 pm to JakeTheDog
quote:And this bothers you more than the idea that a flying spaghetti monster snapped it into existence?
And this bothers me greatly because there are many who mistakenly think the big bang theory is some sort of proof of how everything was created. But if you think about it logically, it's impossible for the big bang to actually be the "creation event".
When people say the big bang "created" the universe, they mean it was the event that brought matter and the fabric of spacetime into existence. Before that, there was nothingness. Not empty space, but rather nothing at all, aside from whatever dimensionless "blah" of whatever was there to bang. Whether it was composed of pure energy, or some other form of information that we don't know about is anybody's guess.
All we know is that the current state, location, and velocity of everything we can see in the universe insists that at some point everything was much, much closer together.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:14 pm to iAmBatman
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The ability for humans to digest milk after adolescence is considered by many to be the most recent example of human's evolution over time (within the last 200,000 years)
Yes because before we were evolved enough to digest milk we only drank Red Bull!
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:15 pm to Korkstand
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And this bothers you more than the idea that a flying spaghetti monster snapped it into existence?
Did I say anything about spaghetti?
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