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re: "China did not build this canal, China does not operate this canal

Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

Trump often uses hyperbole

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Its not hyperbole. Its a lie.


Sadly I think he doesnt really understand who owns and operates the canal
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107156 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:27 pm to
I’ve not said what I believe. I just pointed out your posting “owned” in all your posts,and Pete used control and influence. Just making a point. This was a thread on Pete’s comments and not Trump. I’m not familiar with Trump’s comments. By the way, Operating is still not owning Roger.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
32814 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:27 pm to
Mainly because they can if it's a Chinese company. If the Panamanians want them gone, they will be gone. The Caribbean is an American lake just like most of the Pacific. China cannot project power beyond 150 - 200 miles out from its coasts in reality.

This issue is and has always been bullshite in reality
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:28 pm to
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I just pointed out your posting “owned”


Pete is wagging a fake bone in front of your face.

China has no more influence over the Canal than anyone else.

Trump administration loves creating crisis that dont exist, fixing those crisis and taking credit for saving you.

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107156 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:43 pm to
You keep making assertions like wagging a bone in front of my face. Again, I am making an observation on your comments vs what was being said, no more than that.

You can continue on with your wailing and gnashing teeth over Trump.

Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31087 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

Its not hyperbole. Its a lie.

Sadly I think he doesnt really understand who owns and operates the canal


quote:

New Atlanticist

January 9, 2025

The US is right to be concerned about China’s influence over the Panama Canal. In 2017, Panama broke diplomatic ties with Taiwan and established formal relations with China – a huge win for Chinese diplomacy.

Months later, Panama became the first Latin American country to join China's signature Belt and Road Initiative, a trillion-dollar global infrastructure and investment initiative.

The Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Nicaragua, and Honduras followed suit and also severed ties with Taipei in favor of Beijing.

China has slowly expanded its soft power by opening its first Confucius Institute in the country and providing a grant to build a railway.

Chinese companies have also sponsored "media training" for Panamanian journalists.

China's interests in the Panama Canal have increased since 1997 to include the Port of Cristobal, Fourth Bridge, the Port of Balboa, and the Amador Cruise Terminal

Chinese companies such as Landbridge Group and the Hong Kong-based CK Hutchison Holdings now operate ports at both ends of the canal.

China is the largest provider the Colon Free Zone (CFZ), located on the Caribbean coast of Panama, next to the northern mouth of the Canal. It is the most important free zone in the Americas and the second largest in the world, with an annual import and re-export Issue of $16.16 billion.

China completed the construction of a container port in the Colon area , which has facilities for receiving liquefied natural gas. The construction cost them $900 million, and resulted in the first container terminal designed to handle Neopanamax ships

Panama’s willingness to relinquish critical economic control of strategically significant areas and infrastructure—a hallmark of China’s Belt and Road Initiative strategy—casts doubt on Panama’s resolve and capacity to effectively safeguard the canal’s neutrality as agreed to in the treaty.

Youre delusional, cuz OMB
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1374 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

China does not own or control the canal and has no more power than the other port operators along the canal.


Yeah..they totally had nothing to do with funding/building the recent expansion to accommodate larger ships. Watched a documentry on it a few years ago and china was all over the project.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
17908 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:43 pm to
Oh shite!! I knew our only hope was if Trump won but geez!!! It just keeps getting better!!
The poor, dumbstruck TDS folks and Marxist dems still refusing to see the winds of change.
Theres no stopping this American First momentum!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:47 pm to
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Watched a documentry on it a few years ago and china was all over the project.


Chinese companies did a lot of the construction.

I get that some think a Chinese Company might have a lot of influence in the situation, but unlike Trump said the dont "operate the Canal."

They arent going to shut it down, they dont have any authority.
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
1726 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:49 pm to
A lot of Chinese died building it
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
1726 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:50 pm to
They are incapable of understanding history, unless it’s Trump’s version of it
Posted by OU81TOO
Member since Jul 2024
135 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:51 pm to
Semantics. STFU you lost the argument a few pages ago.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:52 pm to
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A lot of Chinese died building it


Wouldnt doubt it. Dams and canals both seem to take a lot of lives in construction. I think one in 50 workers died on the Erie Canal.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
17908 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:53 pm to
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They are incapable of understanding history, unless it’s Trump’s version of it


Your head is too far up your arse to realize that our duly elected president is rewriting history!! Lol
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

They are incapable of understanding history,


Everything said on this board can be easily researched in seconds. There's no excuse for not looking up something new or contradictory to ones understanding.

But no one does it.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
13705 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:54 pm to
He looks like the nerdy kid from American Graffiti.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

STFU you lost the argument


I'm probably the only one here who knew China didnt operate the canal.

Posted by OU81TOO
Member since Jul 2024
135 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:01 pm to
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I'm probably the only one here who knew China didnt operate the canal.


No, a lot of people knew that. They realize that just because China's name isn't on the deed doesn't mean they don't control it. You're either being intentionally obtuse or TDS is getting in the way of rational thought.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
11426 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

I'm probably the only one here who knew China didnt operate the canal.

You are freaking hilarious. Please carry on.
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
9995 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:14 pm to
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He's playing to the idiotic base.

He's right that China has never owned or operated the canal though.



You really have turned in to a pussy. It's a sad transformation.
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