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Again, and I’ve said it multiple times now, for a religious organization that prides itself on organizing the Bible into book form, you sure do despise it.
What exactly in the Bible frightens Catholics so much?

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And here it is. Catholics don’t “despise” the Bible or are “Frightened” by it. The truth is Many Protestants despise Catholics for some reason but very few Catholics despise Protestants. Wonder why that is.

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because the official RCC wasn’t established till hundreds of years after Jesus told his disciples to go out and spread the good news.

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This is a lie.

The historical record is not abundantly populated with hard documentation and illustrations because the Roman Empire was vigorously persecuting the Church for four centuries. However, we do have historical sources to prove that you are propagating a lie.

You still make no sense on this one. You still want us to believe that Almighty God allowed the Roman Catholic Church to become a pagan-like cult and lead the Faithful to Hell with infant baptism and praying to Mary FOR FIFTEEN CENTURIES before the Protestant Reformation put things right. That defies logic and reason, and Almighty God is the Author of both.

Even so, you want us to believe that the Early Reformers were ALSO wrong about some things, and that it took even MORE centuries for God's Divine Truth to be revealed.

How many off-shoots of Protestantism must one count to get to Southern Baptist, Rev? Why are the Roman Catholics, the Eastern Orthodox, Martin Luther, Calvin and others all wrong, but, your Pastor is right?

And as we speak, the SBC may very well be preparing to schism and branch off into another sect again.

You whole scheme of things defies logic and reason.

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And here it is. Catholics don’t “despise” the Bible or are “Frightened” by it. The truth is Many Protestants despise Catholics for some reason but very few Catholics despise Protestants. Wonder why that is.

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I certainly hope that no one is despising anyone else based on their beliefs. If anything, we should be praying for each other and asking the Lord to open the eyes of those whom we think are blinded to the truth. If we are to pray for our enemies, how much more should we pray for those who claim the name "Christian" along with us?

Granted, there is a point to where beliefs become so different from what is believed to be essential to the faith that "brother" no longer applies, but we should be seeking to win each other over to the truth with kindness and patience.

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Growing up Catholic and going to a Catholic school during my elementary years, I remember there being an attitude that only the priest was qualified to interpret the Bible, and individual Bible reading was never encouraged.
Some members of my Dad’s family went so far to tell us,” you’ll go crazy if you read the Bible!”
You can go back and read the tone about the Bible from Catholics in this thread and it’s easy to see it’s not one that is positive. And it’s a widespread sentiment that I see time and time again when Catholics speak about the Bible in threads like these. There is a pervasive attitude that the Bible is either a lesser source of information as church tradition or at best, only equal to tradition.
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Your personal anecdotes are completely unreliable. Your facts are false.

When you are presented with accurate facts and history, you ignore that and repeat the falsehoods over and over.

I suspect that the theology that you embrace is 25 percent Christianity and 75 percent Anti-Roman Catholicism.

Who (not what) taught the faithful in AD 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600 ..... Protestant Tradition starts in 1500's or better. Roman Catholic and Orthodox begin on Pentecost. Tradition is what Jesus TOLD the APostels to teach. Even the Bible says not everything Jesus taught is in the Bible.

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Growing up Catholic and going to a Catholic school during my elementary years, I remember there being an attitude that only the priest was qualified to interpret the Bible, and individual Bible reading was never encouraged.

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I wish for you that your formation in the faith had been better, and better informed. Along your road to becoming a Southern Baptist you became misinformed about a great majority of Catholic teachings and much of the dogma.

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You can go back and read the tone about the Bible from Catholics in this thread and it’s easy to see it’s not one that is positive.

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I haven't seen anyone (Catholic or Protestant) describe the Scriptures as anything other than sacred.

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There is a pervasive attitude that the Bible is either a lesser source of information as church tradition or at best, only equal to tradition.

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You are the one who is making the leap from it being an integral part of the deposit of faith to being a "less than equal" component.

You are bringing your bias in by saying it is a binary equation where if the Bible is not the only source of truth, it is then a subordinate source of truth.

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You are the one who is making the leap from it being an integral part of the deposit of faith to being a "less than equal" component.

You are bringing your bias in by saying it is a binary equation where if the Bible is not the only source of truth, it is then a subordinate source of truth.

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I guess it bears repeating:

Holy Tradition is the deposit of faith given by Jesus Christ to the Apostles and passed on in the Church from one generation to the next without addition, alteration or subtraction. That means nothing gets added, nothing gets changed, and nothing gets removed.

Holy Tradition is transmitted to the Christian from the Apostles of Jesus Christ both by word of mouth and in writing (II Thess. 2:15, 3:6). The Orthodox theologian Vladimir Lossky famously described Tradition as “the life of the Holy Spirit in the Church.” It is dynamic in its application, but unchanging in its doctrine. It is growing in expression, yet always the same in its essential meaning.

Unlike some ideas about tradition, the Orthodox Church does not see Holy Tradition as something that grows and expands over time, forming a collection of practices and doctrines which accumulate, gradually becoming something more developed and eventually unrecognizable to the first Christians. Rather, Holy Tradition is that same faith that Jesus taught to the Apostles and that they gave to their disciples, preserved in the Church and especially in its leadership through Apostolic succession (Jude 1:3).

At the center of Holy Tradition is the Holy Scriptures, the Bible, the written witness to God’s revelation in the Church. That means that the Scriptures are always interpreted from within the Tradition that was the context for their writing and canonization, a process that lasted until the 4th century - it was not until the year 367 that we see the first list of the 27 books we now know as the New Testament.

Alongside Holy Tradition, Orthodox Christians may also speak about other traditions, which are various customs that help us to express the Holy Tradition—these are things like how certain feast days are celebrated, the exact nature of fasting rules, or details of the Church calendar. These things can change over time, and they have. And that’s okay. What’s important is that the Holy Tradition given by Jesus remains the same.

It all comes down to literal/figurative interpertation. Thou art PETER and upon this Rock..... Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man..... This is my body........ Protestants take these literaly or they would be Catholic. Catholics/Orthodox and ALL Christians before Luther (Even Anglicans) believed it literally. Protestant say they can individually interpert the Bible, but balk when the Church did interpert it and all believed differently from them since Pentecost.

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And we could go on about the SBC and beliefs that we find very troublesome and anti-Biblical.

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Please do.

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Why deprive infants and children Baptism?

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Because in the scripture, faith and belief always precedes baptism, and an infant doesn’t have the capacity to believe or exercise faith. Plus, baptism apart from belief saves no one so it’s irrelevant.

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When is scripture to be taken litterally?

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I take all scripture literally when it’s obvious is was meant to be taken literally.

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howver I would ask if you don't notice an irrational hostility to the Catholic Church that is certainly present in American Protestantism (specifically in Non-denominational circles and definitely in the SBC). The Reformed too have their share of those who fixate on Catholicism in a 16th Century manner.

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When one religious organization says it’s the arbiter of all religious truth, and anyone outside of its umbrella is anathema, that tends to rub people the wrong way.