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re: Can we all agree that Hillary and Obama betrayed our country with the uranium deal?

Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:26 pm to
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Then you must be very worried about Trump, yes?
No

Next question
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 8:27 pm
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:29 pm to
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How about a company with ties to the Kremlin and Putin? You know, kinda like random Russian lawyers with ties to the Kremlin and Putin?



Are you worried about Trump and all the russian investments?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:30 pm to
No, are you?
Posted by bonhoeffer45
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:31 pm to
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I just love how hard you're trying to justify the sale of uranium to a country that can't be trusted to buy Facebook ads.




Again, this was a Canadian company that sold a 51% stake to a Russian state uranium company that America reviewed because it involves a transfer of Wyoming mines.

No uranium from the Wyoming mines have moved to Russia. No uranium can leave America without specific export licenses. 90% of our uranium is already imported, and the world is awash in this stuff to the tune of having enough current supply to cover the worlds needs for 100's of years.

Before I thought you were just message board nitpicking but now I am questioning if you are actually understanding the context of this like you tried to parade around earlier.

If there was any evidence this company was breaking agreements and exporting to Russia, or it became clear the arrangement posed a national security threat, the Trump administration and congress would have grounds for addressing it. Instead they continue to leave it as a political football to stoke their base with conspiracy theories and divert attention from the latest developments in the Mueller case.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 8:33 pm
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:31 pm to
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You do realize Uranium One was purchased by Rosatom and that Rosatom is owned by Russia?



Of course i do. Just like i know the people investing with President Trump are tied into the Russian government.

But, thanks for making my point.
Posted by GeorgePaton
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:33 pm to
yes
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:34 pm to
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course i do. Just like i know the people investing with President Trump are tied into the Russian government.

But, thanks for making my point.
So you aren’t concerned with Trump’s ties nor.do you believe that Russia is an enemy of the United States?
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:45 pm to
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No, are you?


Investment wise, no.
Posted by culsutiger
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:45 pm to
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Posted by FightnBobLafollette
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:46 pm to
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So you aren’t concerned with Trump’s ties nor.do you believe that Russia is an enemy of the United States?



I'm looking for some consistency.

Investment wise, no.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:47 pm to
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I understand perfectly well. I'm not the one persistently spreading the same falsehood about the deal.

If someone is okay with selling uranium to Russia but not Facebook or twitter ads, then just be honest and admit it. Don't deflect from that position with lies.



Once again, no uranium was transferred to Russia in this sale, and if it was found out this company was actively trying to harm our national security, actions would be justified in being taken. Which I suspect if there was any evidence of that currently, would of happened.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:48 pm to
I’m being very consistent. If you’re not concerned investment wise then in what way are you concerned?
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:48 pm to
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If someone is okay with selling uranium to Russia but not Facebook or twitter ads, then just be honest and admit it. Don't deflect from that position with lies.


The two aren't remotely similar. Are you suggesting that without our uranium they would be limited?

Nothing about UR1 presents a threat to us.
Posted by Lsuchs
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:49 pm to
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And what?


And: it wasn't 3 years before, like you said.

3 separate transactions from 09-13

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There is still nothing in the way of evidence this was a quid pro quo arrangement.


What evidence was there for trump colluding with Russia before the investigation, is there even any now?

Let's investigate. That should be ok with you, let's look at everything Clinton because there might be something right?

Transactions to her foundation tracing back to parties involved, during and after. FBI investigating exactly what we are questioning during time frame, witnesses rushed out of country before they could go on the record.. sure it's not proof, but it's plenty to warrant a further look by the lefts own standards.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 8:59 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:51 pm to
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Nothing about UR1 presents a threat to us.
What about Facebook does?
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:52 pm to
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I’m being very consistent. If you’re not concerned investment wise then in what way are you concerned?




I never said you werent'. You jumped into an exchange.

Concerned: disinformation, hacking, military, etc.

Our president says we can get along with them. Maybe he is right.
Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 8:55 pm to
I concur with op.
Posted by culsutiger
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:07 pm to
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Posted by bonhoeffer45
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:11 pm to
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You're okay with Russia strengthening its control of the source material used for the generation of 1/5th of our nation's power, but you don't trust them to buy Facebook ads.


You keep lying or ignoring context to make your posts, no one is deflecting anything on my end. Every point you have made has been addressed. Not just by me either.

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used for the generation of 1/5th of our nation's power

That is not true either. Most of our nations power is not nuclear. Not even close. And 90% of our uranium is imported. This Wyoming mine is all but inconsequential. HOWEVER, if it were evidenced that actions this company took or takes poses a national security threat, or they violated the terms of the export licenses affiliated companies have, like Facebook has chosen to see the Russian companies buying ad space, the government could and would take action.
Posted by culsutiger
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:18 pm to
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