re: Can someone explain to me why in the hell black people vote Democrat?

Two words.....entitlement programs

Historically this goes back to the early 1930s when blacks switched from the party of Abraham Lincoln to the party of Jefferson Davis.

Blacks exchanged their morality for the promises of government largess!

Yep, that worked out well, not!

Edit: Well we have one down voting history denier!

Free shite.

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bamarep

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I'm going to try my hand at it.

First, we need to establish some key points. Blacks vote Democratic largely due to the socioeconomic protections the Democrats provide (though some states and politicians obviously do better than others). This applies to civil justice as well.

We also realize that by voting collectively, it makes more of an impact than splitting what is only 14% of the nations population.

As for your points:

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Homosexuality: most blacks ain't down with the butt secks 

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Most blacks look down on homosexuality, but not quite for the same reasons white evangelicals do. Yes we have our bible thumpers, but it's also a matter of machismo built into Black culture.

Being gay is seen as being a wimp, soft, etc (being very PG on this because I might get banned on the deeper psychological side of this)

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Abortion: for a group that is probably the most tribal oriented race in this county, yet they vote for a group that advocates the murdering of hundreds of thousands of black babies every year. 

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Abortion is the byproduct of bad family values, high single motherhood rates, and more significantly a lack of economic security from your job/family etc.

All issues heavily found in many black families. Yes, I agree with most counterarguments regarding birth control. This board assumes that understanding the logic of a problem is akin to supporting it. It isnt.

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Higher taxes

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The level of civil protections and services require some if taxation. That said, blacks are not the primary recipients of the taxes as right wing conspiracy would have you believe.

* Dont we all use the roads.
* Dont we all want decent public amenities for our children. Going totally private comes with the backlash of having to take a 20 to 30% paycut for basic education. A system like this will effectively neuter the middle class in long run, no matter how well intended.

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Illegal immigration: Guess who's jobs these bad hombres are taking? 

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Are you sure it Blacks. Given the fields they dominate I would argue its primarily poor whites who are getting replaced. To be honest, I have bias on this since I believe we as Americans need to focus more heavily on tradesmen jobs and tech sector jobs.

That said, I'm not familiar with anyone asking for open borders, but a more streamlined approach for immigration. I hear the term open borders from right-wing media accusations than I do from Democrats discussing policy.

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Federal control of education: Guess which schools are producing less and less qualified graduates? 

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How would state controlled education be any better? The reason many are skeptical is because they feel that the moment you give states full control of education, it's back to discriminatory practices again.

I'm not saying that this will happen. And if the GOP took the time to explain what their actual plans are, we might have an easier transition with a mutual understanding.


I can elaborate with links. But the heart of the matter is that Blacks and other non white groups see the Republican party as a white nativist party. Most of Republican talking points work well when you ignore the fact that social problems make their implementation difficult.

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It’s pretty simple really. They have been fed this lie that Republicans are racists, they hate blacks in particular, they are going to take away their right to vote and eventually put them back in chains. That fear alone despite zero evidence to support it outweighs everything else you mentioned and keeps them voting for the party that literally embodied everything they fear. Dems are the party of the Klan, the party of Jim Crow, the party that did everything to deny them civil rights and their right to vote.

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Actions speak louder than words. Most Blacks today (not the Al Sharpton types) look at how Blacks are treated by white southerners TODAY. Notice I said "white southerner".

That's because a political party is nothing more than an alignment of policies. It has no bearing on cultural differences or upbringing.

And not all white southerners are bad (obviously) but some refuse to forgo the principle of judging people by their actions not their skin tone.

Red states may not be directly taking away voting rights, but they do have the strictest voting rights. This isnt a bad thing by itself, but comes off as willingly making the voting process difficult.

Also, look at your candidates. Do you honestly believe Black middle class people look at Roy Moore type politicians and say "that's who I want to vote for". I cant speak for all of them but I want a candidate who isnt living in the past. The entire narrative of Blacks being better off falls apart when you have Republican candidates like Moore. Now if you had more guys like Kavanaugh that's a different story.

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Can someone explain to me why in the hell black people vote Democrat?

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Mostly, it's a combination of:

1) As a group, they don't dig for political information.

2) Therefore, they are easily influenced by Democrat con artists who lie to them about the "other side."

Some examples:

1) Just a couple of days ago, Hillary Clinton gave a commencement address at Hunter College. Now, you're supposed to give an uplifting speech about the future on these occasions. But what did that bitch talk about? White supremacy. I kid you not. To be fair, that particular audience was probably predominantly white (don't get me started on SJW's). But still, playing the race card is probably the strongest weapon the Dems have. PS ' Funny how Hillary has transitioned from "super predators" to white supremacy in the past 25 years. I guess you have to go where the votes are.

2) In 2012, Creepy, Sleepy Joe Biden told a largely black audience, "They're gonna put y'all back in chains!" I'd like to report that the black audience laughed the idiot off the stage, but they applauded the author of the super predator bill like crazy.

3) Hillary, Al Gore, AOC and others have stupidly effected a "black accent" at times when speaking before a black group. I'd like to be able to say that those idiots were booed off the stage for being incredibly disrespectful and condescending, but sadly they weren't.

This is my take on it, anyway. As a brief and blunt summary, I would simply say that the overwhelming percentage of black people simply don't realize that they are being conned.