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Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:15 pm to Harry Boutte
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It's not that either.
That's exactly what it is. You tried to used the prefatory clause of the Second Amendment the same way anti-gun idiots use it.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
I have the feeling more people will be fully on board when the 14th Amendment goes back in front of the USSC.
What is 'citizenship'? We're about to find out.
What is 'citizenship'? We're about to find out.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:16 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Libertarians have just become contrarian trolls for the most part. The are ok with the house burning down just as long as everyone recognizes they were the one's screaming fire(while doing nothing to put out fire)
This post is like a stake to the heart of the vampire known as Rogertheshrubber, who has become a caricature of himself as of late
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:16 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You tried to used the prefatory clause of the Second Amendment
To do what?
What does the Constitution say about "security"?
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:16 pm to goatmilker
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So you didn't vote for the Constitution I take it?
Is that what you're going to claim you voted for?
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:17 pm to Harry Boutte
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To do what?
Did you forget?
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
I’ll raise you this one


Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:18 pm to OBReb6
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The second amendment, which is part of the bill of rights, did not apply to individual citizens until the ratification of the 14th amendment in 1868.
Wrong.
The Second Amendment is the Second Amendment. The language didn't change.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:18 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
What does the Constitution say about "security"?
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:19 pm to Harry Boutte
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I have the feeling more people will be fully on board when the 14th Amendment goes back in front of the USSC.
What is 'citizenship'? We're about to find out.
I'm going to laugh so hard when it doesn't even make it to the Supreme Court
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:19 pm to OBReb6
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Can anyone defend being a libertarian anymore?
Not to the point someone should consider it a realistic ideology. Someone will always exploit its inherent weaknesses. It sucks, but it’s reality.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:20 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
What does the Constitution say about security - and why are you so afraid to answer the question? It goes directly to the point of giving up some liberty for security.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:21 pm to SlayTime
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Not to the point someone should consider it a realistic ideology. Someone will always exploit its inherent weaknesses. It sucks, but it’s reality.
I'll say this again
You can take his OP and replace "libertarian" with "small government conservative" and his point still stands.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:21 pm to Harry Boutte
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answer the question
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
You don't see an issue with "subject to the jurisdiction"? I'm certainly no lawyer, but it seems like that's what's going to get hashed out this time.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:22 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Wrong
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Prior to the ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment and the development of the incorporation doctrine, the Supreme Court in 1833 held in Barron v. Baltimore that the Bill of Rights applied only to the federal, but not any state, governments. Even years after the ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment, the Supreme Court in United States v. Cruikshank (1876) still held that the First and Second Amendment did not apply to state governments.
Incorporation of the bill of rights
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:24 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
You don't even have a point, you're all reaction. Good luck with that.
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