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can America be saved through voting/primarying?

Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:39 pm
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:39 pm
update for yes. down for no


BTW 1ST DOWNVOTE.


Not only do I feel like the vote is rigged from mail in, and we will become a one party state. there just will not be enough true America 1st candidates on tbe republican side. I as a libertarian populist feel neither side has my back, but the democrat party is 1000% corrupt, and has fallen to outside influence/ideology. it is the party of oligarchy/authoritarian,commascist rule. there are a few (as there are only a few republican members I believe truly care about the average American) I just disagree so strongly on policy I can't ever see myself voting for one. I can't see myself voting for any repub besides rand/cruz(and really he would be a vote of "atleast you are on the right tract" he just says mean shite to big tech. he won't ever do shite)

so anyone who upvotes either help me find the next trump, and raise him up (I need to do more research on desantis), and help me find a way to work on a national level to destroy MIV, or if you DOWNVOTE help me find ways to gather people without big tech, or the domestic terror group the FBI destroying us so we can go the hard way about change.
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 11:43 pm
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7547 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:40 pm to
If the opposition owns the ballot box, voting them out can be quite difficult as we've seen.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27956 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:44 pm to
We have to organize to require picture ID for voting and stop mail in voting except for old fashioned absentee.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12177 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:45 pm to
Libertarians act like they getting 2 slices of bread in the camp.

But in reality no one moves when Big Bubba takes half of their slice.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:45 pm to
I want this to be an actual discussion on how to fix shite. not a bitch thread. someone here has to be involved somewhere on even a state level of politics, and knows how a non millionaire like myself can start helping in making change.

I am going back to school starting this summer, and plan to start learning constitutional law to help fight against censorship.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:50 pm to
quote:

Libertarians act like they getting 2 slices of bread in the camp.

But in reality no one moves when Big Bubba takes half of their slice.



frick off mfer. I am not a libertarian in the sense I cut off my own nose saying "oh big tech private company! they does what they wants"

the libertarian party is a joke. I am a taxation is theft/don't tread on me mfer. I see the NAP is don't start no shite won't be no shite. I still believe in taxes, but taxes to spend on Pakistani gender studies is theft. if you tax people to enrich yourself, or spend on anything that doesn't serve the common man THAT IS THEFT!

I AM NOT out of touch in ideology. I love Ron paul. I just believe in not being intrusive in lives, and what taxes are taken need to be used efficiently as possible to help everyday people



stop living in retard land. I am not against growing sentiment to our side, and using the blasphemous centralization of power the idiots before us have accumulated to crush their own side, and then use that same power to dismantle it. it seems like the only real world. non fictional way of getting things to happen.

we are to a point polarization makes it impossible to change large swaths minds, and I am not under the illusion the free market is free (due to the propaganda apparatus that is the media swaying the lowest common denominator of society). so I see a only a path that doesn't fit my desire of how the world should work perfectly, but hopefully after we can create programs/encourage education on not Marxism, but individualism, American Exceptionalism, faith in eachother, and personal responsibility. bringing back the ideals that made this nation the shining beacon of freedom it was meant to be, not the current flaming trashcan of crony capitalism, corruption, and pseudo fascism it is today.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 12:03 am
Posted by CheEngineer
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:57 pm to
Sadly they will count the votes as they see fit again. Not a snowballs chance in hell. They will give you the illusion of fair elections but we can always get them next time.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7547 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:03 am to
quote:

I want this to be an actual discussion on how to fix shite. not a bitch thread. someone here has to be involved somewhere on even a state level of politics, and knows how a non millionaire like myself can start helping in making change.

I am going back to school starting this summer, and plan to start learning constitutional law to help fight against censorship.




OK, since you are so desperate for a discussion:

Instead of going to school for Constitutional Law and wasting your damn time you need to start with election reform or poll watching.

The Constitution is not the problem, following it with honest elections is.

If you don't fix the voting everything else is for naught.

And BTW just because you start a thread doesn't exalt you to moderator status.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:03 am to
quote:

Sadly they will count the votes as they see fit again. Not a snowballs chance in hell. They will give you the illusion of fair elections but we can always get them next time.


okay, I know this. so either help me find a way to over throw it, or use the system to beat itself.

I want real world answers that either reside in French/American history (worst possible outcome. will end in China being the dominant power. then we all lose)

or I want someone to help me beat Stacy Abrams as the next super stealer without being fat, and ugly.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 12:06 am
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:17 am to
I don't consider myself a mod, or any of that shite dude. I honestly do feel going back to learn law could be a waste simply because the Dems will destroy the constitution in the time it takes me me to finish.

quote:

wasting your damn time you need to start with election reform or poll watching.


I do realize it is not the issue. enforcement is.


now what you don't get is just starting that shite gives me no legitimacy.

going back, and doing law while studying it making myself a "constitutional scholar" does infact give me legitimacy. I am sorry that you do not realize we live in a world of illusions, and doing things to give me the "illusion" of moral/intellectual highground is absolutely paramount in my ability to give myself "legitimacy" over another, and being able to get donations/grants/loans to be able to finance this war in which we are fighting. I am sorry I am actually thinking far more critically than you are in a way to help save our nation. please continue to use ad hominems, and post memes. you are doing so much birthing, and waiting on someone else to fight for you. I have no interest in you being in my foxhole.

we are in a culture warfare. being fought with 5th generational warfare tactics. which is an informational warfare. we need people who are IT specialists/lawyers/and people who study political science. all 3 will be needed to win this war.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 12:24 am
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7703 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:23 am to
quote:

okay, I know this. so either help me find a way to over throw it, or use the system to beat itself.


Simple. We all saw that "protest" at the Capital. If every single protestor went armed, stormed the Capital, Georgia, Pennsylvania or wherever and killed the politicians making these stupid decisions, we'd be OK.

Show me a politician that isn't running for political gain. Even in small cities these people run to benefit themselves and they're getting peanuts. Without killing these people so they see America demands justice and freedom or else, we will watch this empire crumble and ourselves with it. That's the only way.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57998 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:25 am to
No. Vote out one swamp rat and he’s replaced by another one!
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:30 am to
quote:

Simple. We all saw that "protest" at the Capital. If every single protestor went armed, stormed the Capital, Georgia, Pennsylvania or wherever and killed the politicians making these stupid decisions, we'd be OK.



I agree. if the next person feared being fired like the last it would fix many problems. it will never happen. though due to media propaganda we would lose in the long run.
Posted by TheSearch
Mediocrity, LA
Member since Jan 2018
399 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:31 am to
I mean...

wasn't it "saved" by voting in 2016.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:42 am to
quote:

I mean...

wasn't it "saved" by voting in 2016.


I remember mail in votes (legal absentee) having over a 5% rejection rate with no curing. now if is where like
5% with curing.

also Georgia is somehow blue.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4090 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:42 am to
Nope.
Posted by TheSearch
Mediocrity, LA
Member since Jan 2018
399 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:47 am to
quote:

I remember mail in votes (legal absentee) having over a 5% rejection rate with no curing. now if is where like
5% with curing.

also Georgia is somehow blue.


Oh right..

Couldn't have said it better myself.
Posted by CheEngineer
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2019
4234 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 8:14 am to
Unfortunately we are basically Venezuela North right now just 10-15 years back. Until our population is starving and our country is destroyed nobody is doing anything it. Authoritarian government gonna authoritarian they don’t give your rights and freedoms back you have to take them.
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