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re: Can a liberal democrat explain this logic to me

Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:59 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:59 pm to
Well then this idiot's post is just that idiocy.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 8:09 pm to
Well, it's pretty common to hear people on here talking about how they'd have to have their guns pried from their cold, dead hands. If the military actually came after 99% of those people's guns, they'd hand them over. That'll never happen, and they know it. It's like a guy that says "If I had been there, I'd have..." Well yeah, you can name literally anything you'd have done. You weren't there. It's impossible that you will ever have been there. You can pretty much say anything and never have to worry about being called on it.

The biggest argument you hear is that people need their guns to fight tyranny. That's pretty much impossible, or will never happen. That's not me being in favor of taking everyone's guns. I own two. I'm just saying that the military will never turn on the citizens and go after their guns, and the people wouldn't stand a chance if they did. The militia thing is really sort of silly to discuss unless you're talking about some last ditch, rag-tag group of guys a la Red Dawn.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 8:17 pm to
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they'd hand them over
Assuming the military would follow this unlawful order the weapons would disappear prior to search and seizure.

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That's pretty much impossible, or will never happen
Probably
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and the people wouldn't stand a chance if they did
We couldn't pull off a gun hunt of the magnitude you are talking about.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 8:21 pm to
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Assuming the military would follow this unlawful order the weapons would disappear prior to search and seizure.
But the military wouldn't, and everyone knows that they wouldn't. Hence all of the e-badasses feeling comfortable talking about what they would or wouldn't do. In this crazy hypothetical, I guess quite a few of the guns would be hidden. Then what? You'd... Use them some? Never again? Just keep them? Go guerrilla and reclaim your rights? Nah.

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We couldn't pull off a gun hunt of the magnitude you are talking about.
No, we couldn't. That's the point.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 8:23 pm to
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No, we couldn't. That's the point.
The point is the military will not follow the unlawful order.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 8:26 pm to
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The point is the military will not follow the unlawful order.
That is about what I'd expect.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 8:31 pm to
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Scruffy
Just started getting into Futurama. Am I going to continue liking Zoidberg?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 8:31 pm to
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That is about what I'd expect.
Oath keepers.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 8:49 pm to
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Zoidberg
Zoidberg is awesome. He gets better and better.

Bender gets more badass too.

Be careful when you get to the episode "Jurassic Bark". I've watched it once. It's really good, but you can't watch it again.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 8:54 pm to
I was in the kitchen this morning and accidentally knocked over my roommates coffee. I, FT, swear that the following is true:

I screamed in a very high pitched voice, squatted down, raised my arms up to shoulder's height, began rapidly snapping my hands together and ran sideways from the kitchen shouting "woopwoopwoopwoopwoopwoopwoopwoopwoopwoop".
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:13 pm to


I like how he gets blamed for everything.

"Who does this young doctor think he is? I've probably killed more patients than he has seen."
Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:26 pm to
He's my favorite (non Scruffy) character.

"Good news, everyone!" Is second.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:36 pm to
Farnsworth has many awesome quotes. He is probably 2 or 3 for me. Maybe change out with Bender.

"Oh, yes, madness runs in our family. Some people even called ME mad? And why? Because I dared to dream of creating a race of atomic monsters... atomic supermen with octagonal bodies that suck blood..."
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 9:37 pm
Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:55 pm to
Leela: Here you are, fresh off the nebula.

Professor Hubert Farnsworth: And none too soon. While you were gone, the Trotters held a news conference to announce that I was a jive sucker.

Farnsworth: It's a sunny little doomed planet, inhabited by a number of frisky little doomed animals.
Leela: Animals?
Farnsworth: That's right. Animals in desperate need of rescue. You see, Vergon 6 was once filled with a super-dense substance known as dark matter, each pound of which weighs over ten thousand pounds.
Leela: Wait! What about the animals?
Farnsworth: Well, dark matter is extremely valuable as starship fuel. That's why it was all mined out, leaving the planet completely hollow.
Leela: Yes, but what about the animals?
Farnsworth: The wha'?
Leela: The animals.
Farnsworth: I didn't say anything about animals. Now it seems that the planet will collapse within three days. Incidentally, this will kill all the animals.
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:02 pm to
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Exercising your right to vote doesn't result in a schoolyard full of dead children, that's why.


You lack depth.
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:05 pm to
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The point is the military will not follow the unlawful order.


Link?
Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:05 pm to
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You lack depth.
What does that have to do with Futurama?

God, you people that don't keep up with the thread...
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:06 pm to
Fitting for this thread:

"I pawned it for the same reason everyone pawns everything in America: to get a gun."

"Good news! . . . there's a tv report on with some very bad news."

Farnsworth: "We did all we could"
Fry: "So you mean he's . . . ??"
Farnsworth: "Good as new? ee-yes!"
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:06 pm to
Simple attempt to rehijack the thread.
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:09 pm to
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I seriously doubt that it would make any difference "when the shite hits the fan". If you're engaging the US military, there isn't a gun you can legally obtain that would be much use.


People on this board think about such a conflict much too simplistically and don't consider all the options available in a guerrilla war.
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