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re: California will continue falling as they continue to push out refineries.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 10:06 pm to alphaandomega
Posted on 12/15/25 at 10:06 pm to alphaandomega
Not sure how many California refineries will be left after the P66 and Valero shutdown. I know PBF bought the old shell and Exxon refineries there. So they have 2 in California.
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 10:21 pm to Tigernomics
Posted on 12/16/25 at 12:25 am to OU Guy
Cali gets a chunk of their gas from asia Cali gas imports, and NV and AZ gas gets pumped in from Cali...... 
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:16 am to Tigernomics
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We should just stop giving them hand outs and funding. Let them see how it goes.
Did you know that Californians paid about $275.6 billion more to the federal government than they received? That is the most in the country by far. LINK
Posted on 12/16/25 at 2:48 am to retired_tiger
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Did you know that Californians paid about $275.6 billion more to the federal government than they received? That is the most in the country by far.
What is always left out of that statement......a large piece of that is CORPORATE TAX, which the corporations then add to their cost of goods. In other words California businesses are "tariffing" the rest of the US for goods. I thought we all hated "tariffs"? Remember that next time you put one of those stupid Apple logos on your car
By the way, for all you Ukraine lovers, you do realize that gas coming from India was made with Russian oil, what a bunch of hypocrites.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 3:52 am to Tigernomics
And they'll vote in more frickin democrats to keep it going, thats is the definition of insanity, I wonder how many Democrats have fled the state
Posted on 12/16/25 at 4:00 am to G I Jeaux
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No crap given.
They vote for this, time and time again.
!st they frick up water, now oil.
You should care. CAs crap trickles thru the nation more than any other state in the nation. Car OEMs force CAs rules on the rest of the states, and states don't step up. Cost of goods will go up, and people wont blame CA but current Repub policies for not working.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 4:04 am to trinidadtiger
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What is always left out of that statement......a large piece of that is CORPORATE TAX, which the corporations then add to their cost of goods. In other words California businesses are "tariffing" the rest of the US for goods. I thought we all hated "tariffs"? Remember that next time you put one of those stupid Apple logos on your car
By the way, for all you Ukraine lovers, you do realize that gas coming from India was made with Russian oil, what a bunch of hypocrites.
retarded_bot won't know how to get his AI to properly respond to your response.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 5:43 am to Tigernomics
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Job loss and families taking the hit. Companies made to look like the bad guys in the media, but then they get mad when they leave.
Sounds just like the black communities - the activists and politicians learned this behavior from.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 7:30 am to West Seattle Dude
I work for a company that did grain/food industry work in Cali. I think it started in the 90s but I go back as far as 06.
They have had three offices in Cali and multiple jobs going at one time out there over the last 20 yrs.
They are and have closed the last office and moving out of Cali. They "loose money" on every job due to bs regs. They are out.
Do people not see what is happening?
They have had three offices in Cali and multiple jobs going at one time out there over the last 20 yrs.
They are and have closed the last office and moving out of Cali. They "loose money" on every job due to bs regs. They are out.
Do people not see what is happening?
Posted on 12/16/25 at 7:32 am to I20goon
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I say let the west coast secede and then invade as a threat.
It's much easier to rule by fear as a conqueror than as a democracy having freedoms used against you by communists.
strip them of their 55 Ev's and dems are dead to rights in POTUS elections moving forward.
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