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re: California areas tax revenue implications. How will counties survive?

Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:47 pm to
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:47 pm to
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Different situation than a bona fide move, as I referred to.

In a super simple situation where the state clearly knows you moved and have no remaining business sourced there, of course you are going to be in the clear. But if California sees even a crack where you have not 100% notified them that your income is no longer sourced there, they will make you show them before they concede you don’t owe them anything. Sucks but once you have earned income in a state, the onus is typically on you to prove you no longer have income sourced there. If you get a notice, you need to jump through the hoops or they are going to assess tax and take it.

The situation I dealt with was taxpayer sold a Mississippi business in Sept of 2018 for an 8 figures capital gain. They moved to Georgia at the end of August. All of your income is sourced to California while a resident, regardless of the state the income is earned. Louisiana does that as well. Was also taxed in Mississippi. Most people who file resident tax returns in a state will get a credit for taxes paid in other states but some don’t. But California had no clue when the business was sold because it was in Mississippi and they didn't know exactly when she moved. States you used to reside in can access your federal return and inspect them to see income reported there they think should have been sourced there. They saw that 8 figure gain and licked their chops. That was when we needed to prove it was sold a few weeks after she left California.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13146 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:06 am to
With no fire insurance, to clear that lot and build back to Kalifornia codes and specs? They will never be on the right side of that bank note, if they can even get financed.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24007 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:17 am to
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Take Palisades for example...all those homes unlivable. So for years, those people are gone and live elsewhere. Businesses are gone. Millionaires are forced out and their tax revenue will be gone


Some way, somehow the tax revenue will not be gone. California will chase them wherever they go for more tax money.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24007 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:20 am to
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That might not be the case. State Farm Canceled alot of policies 6 months ago and the FAIR insurance won't be able to cover it.


Glad we don't live in Los Angeles right?
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6311 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:10 am to
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California will chase them wherever they go for more tax money.


Can't do that on individuals. All they have to do is change address
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39856 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:18 am to
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How will counties survive?
This is all in LA County. It's actually a very small total area and population affected. They'll be fine (to the extent LA County is ever fine).

To put it in context: LA County is about 10 million residents. Total ordered evacuations are like 180K.
This post was edited on 1/10/25 at 11:20 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173659 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:22 am to
I was just about to post this. Not to diminish the scale of this disaster but people are underestimating just how populated the county area is.

This was talked about with Houston after Harvey. As bad as that was I think less than 10% of the city actually incurred any serious damage.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39856 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:31 am to
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I was just about to post this. Not to diminish the scale of this disaster but people are underestimating just how populated the county area is.
As horrific as it is in affected areas, the media really is blowing it up. They are focusing on the very worst areas and then acting as if those are a lot bigger than they are.
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