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Byron York: If Mueller didn't charge Flynn/Manafort with collusion,then who was colluding?

Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69312 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:41 pm
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All those charges, and none alleging that any of these men, some of them at the highest levels of the Trump campaign, took part in any collusion, or coordination, or conspiracy between the campaign and Russia.

"I can't imagine that there would have been collusion or conspiracy with the Russians that Michael Flynn didn't know about," said Sol Wisenberg, a former prosecutor with the office of independent counsel Kenneth Starr. "If you're trying to make a collusion case and you are Mueller, you're trying to get someone to plead to the crime you're trying to prove."

McCarthy has written much the same. "When a prosecutor has a cooperator who was an accomplice in a major criminal scheme, the cooperator is made to plead guilty to the scheme," he wrote last December. "This is critical because it proves the existence of the scheme."

Even Preet Bharara, the New York U.S. attorney fired by Trump and no fan of the president's, said last year, "When we had evidence against somebody and wanted them to flip, we made them plead guilty to every bad act that they had ever done, especially if we were later going to be alleging other people had engaged in that activity as well."

But in the Mueller investigation, it is precisely the people who would most be expected to be part of a collusion scheme who have not been charged with taking part in any such activity.


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Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77324 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:42 pm to
The socialist...
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31090 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

If Mueller didn't charge Flynn/Manafort with collusion,then who was colluding?
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:08 pm to
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: If Mueller didn't charge Flynn/Manafort with collusion,then who was colluding?


Has the investigation been extended to include the DNC, Hillary and the lop-eared Kenyan?
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20406 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:15 pm to
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then who was colluding


Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18866 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:37 pm to
Yikes.

Is that one of the Guardians from the Green Lantern Corps?
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:31 pm to
starrs whitewater investigation went on for 4 years and 8 months
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:39 pm to
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As the former prosecutor Andrew McCarthy points out, "there is no such offense in federal law as 'conspiracy against the United States.'" But Mueller's office described their alleged crimes that way, and some media commentators liked the treason-ish sound of the phrase.
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Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7431 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:41 pm to
Manafort was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States. There is no "collusion" law on record to charge him with.

Flynn wasn't charged with any of this because he chose to cooperate.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9904 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:44 pm to
That McCarthy piece is weird. He also implies that pleading targets down in exchange for information on other targets is somehow against DOJ code.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73849 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:46 pm to
The DNC is the only thing that comes to mind for me
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:47 pm to
The McCarthy piece is only weird if you think of him as a dispassionate legal expert. If you think of him as a hack pretending to forget every view he held on surveillance law, prosecutorial power, or Trump himself prior to 2017 in order to put the most professional possible spin on whatever Trump farts onto Twitter that morning, it makes perfect sense.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 3:48 pm
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