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re: But tariffs don’t work….
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:14 pm to Taxing Authority
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:14 pm to Taxing Authority
It's pretty fricking amusing that none of them even responded to that post.
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:14 pm to BCreed1
quote:This isn't cauasality.
Either we were rich and had tariffs or we did not.
Like I pointed out, we also used typewriters instead of the internet back then too. Why not return to using typewriters and paper mail? We'll be rich again!This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:16 pm to Jjdoc
quote:And what percentage was government as share of GDP?
Our federal government was funded by tariffs.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:17 pm to Taxing Authority
Be prepared for the dumbest answer you can imagine
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:19 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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What numbers have you provided again?
Zero in Spanish is what?
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:22 pm to BCreed1
quote:Except the difference isn't 10% as you suggest. It's 300% on many goods. So a 100% tariff doesn't do isht. It's still cheaper to produce overseas, and since theres no domestic production, the 100% can easily be passed on to consumers. WINNING!
Company A sells a product for $100. Due to tariffs, they would have to sell it for $110. That would put them at a disadvantage to other companies inside the USA. If only there was a way to avoid the tariffs.
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Therefore, the tariffs have nothing to do with the price.
The entire purpose of tariffs is to raise prices. If prices aren't increased, the only alternative is for domestic workers to have a lower income. A is A.Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:24 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:We sure as hell did NOT have SS and Medicare.
What else did we have, starting in 1913?
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:27 pm to Warboo
quote:This is ONLY possible if we pay more for goods. By definition.
The US needs tariffs to balance the trade deficit.
quote:Whyt? Be sure to include the relative value of currencies. Simple question. Why would you assert that the nation with the strongest currency on the planet have no trade deficit?
Whether you call it subsidies for American companies or not does not change the fact that the trade deficit must be fixed.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:28 pm to Jjdoc
quote:No. It didn't. Expensive labor, a hostile regulatory and legal envrionment moved capital investment over seas.
Free trade moved money out of the USA.
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Just as the money moved out, it will be moved back in and rebuild the middle class.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:31 pm to Ten Bears
quote:I swear some of them think we have to repay it.
I didn’t know my taxes were paying this
Mythical trade deficit. Did we not anything in return?
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:33 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:There's a reason Schumer didn't fight it.
Yes, and it's nearly indistinguishable from Biden's.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:34 pm to RobbBobb
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Nice. Not even hiding your communistic roots.
The USSR banned almost all imports. Look how wealthy they were!Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I wish I'd kept a count of how many times I've asked them why they'd expect a nation with the worlds strongest curreny would NOT be running a large trade deficit. Because they never answer. Gotta be a 100x by now.
No. Their currency is shite and their economy is unstable. It's not comparable to a developed country with a real currency, let alone the #1 economy with the #1 currency
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:38 pm to Warboo
quote:You mean like Thomas Massie tried to do?
Tell your leeching congressbto get off their arse and pass the spending bill this sept that will have us on a balanced budget.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:38 pm to Taxing Authority
Ooof
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:44 pm to deltaland
quote:And is still too expensive in an competitive market. If "man" wants to do the same work a Chinese, Vietnamese, Fillipino, etc. worker can do equally well for a LOT more money... "man" is going to have a hard time.
2. Company moves overseas. Man loses job. Man gets new job in a service industry making 45k with no retirement benefits or good insurance.
quote:They aren't 10% cheaper. They are 300% cheaper than they would be if made in America with "man" making 70k a year with retirement and benefits.
3. Man gets told outsourcing is a good thing because he can now buy that product 10% cheaper and it’s good for the consumer. Never mind outsourcing caused a 30% pay cut for him
People way understimate the differential of foreign production. You think the 10% PRICE difference you see at the store represents the difference. It's not. The COST difference is almost always far greater.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:47 pm to SDVTiger
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Let's see the math
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25% tariff will = zero increase on daily used gooda Now lets see you prove me worng.
Dunning Kruger is undefeatedPosted on 3/25/25 at 10:49 pm to Powerman
quote:That's what makes it so fascinating. They think they're proving they're right, while showing they are clueless. It's amazing.
Be prepared for the dumbest answer you can imagine
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:56 pm to Taxing Authority
You linked the dumbest post
He went on a rant to end up saying this
Yes we know you keep saying this. How much please provide an example or math
Its incredible how we knew Cuckeye would never answer. Now you are doing the same
He went on a rant to end up saying this
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They WILL cause prices to go up
Yes we know you keep saying this. How much please provide an example or math
Its incredible how we knew Cuckeye would never answer. Now you are doing the same
Posted on 3/25/25 at 11:02 pm to SDVTiger
quote:He gave you math. You didn't refute a single bit of it. It is what it is.
You linked the dumbest post
quote:Literally in the link. What you're seem to be asking is for someone else to understand it for you. No once can do that.
Yes we know you keep saying this. How much please provide an example or math
And even beyond that, the entire purpose of tariffs is to raise prices to make domestic production "competitive". Or... are you going to argue that tariffs don't work?
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