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re: Brown University Shooting Thread: UPDATE, Also Suspect in MIT murder; Committed Suicide
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:12 am to Good Times
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:12 am to Good Times
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Before releasing them, they would have secured enough personal information to find them, after informing them to stay available.
You would think so, but I believe that Providence is that incompetent. Perez said that Brown has asked students to email the University if they were in the auditorium when the shootings took place.
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:14 am to IvoryBillMatt
IvoryB…
I’m visiting with my grandkids and haven’t been keeping up- you seem to be on top of things… am I to understand the bad guy is still unknown and at large AND they don’t have witnesses, basically?
I’m visiting with my grandkids and haven’t been keeping up- you seem to be on top of things… am I to understand the bad guy is still unknown and at large AND they don’t have witnesses, basically?
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:22 am to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:26 am to SallysHuman
Perp still unknown. Better footage from community ring cameras. Something janky going on with Brown's CCTV system. STRONG suggestion that system was compromised to either protect identities of Palestinian activists AND/OR obstruct ICE to help illegal aliens.
Second person (might be female) in new videos seems to be acting in concert with the suspected shooter.
Yes, the Chief of Police said yesterday that HE DID NOT KNOW the identities of all the students in the classroom. So, not all the student eyewitnesses (who are on break now...and scattered across the country) have been interviewed yet.
They DO have some eyewitnesses, but all the Chief would say is they provided a physical description consistent with the images we're getting from the ring cameras.
HOPEFULLY, there is some strategic advantage in lying about this. It's hard to imagine that level of incompetence...but getting easier to imagine after each daily news conference.
Second person (might be female) in new videos seems to be acting in concert with the suspected shooter.
Yes, the Chief of Police said yesterday that HE DID NOT KNOW the identities of all the students in the classroom. So, not all the student eyewitnesses (who are on break now...and scattered across the country) have been interviewed yet.
They DO have some eyewitnesses, but all the Chief would say is they provided a physical description consistent with the images we're getting from the ring cameras.
HOPEFULLY, there is some strategic advantage in lying about this. It's hard to imagine that level of incompetence...but getting easier to imagine after each daily news conference.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:28 am to Jbird
Outstanding, Jbird! I have been looking for such a photo.
It has been extremely suspicious that one hadn't surfaced yet...or been provided by authorities.
Thanks!
It has been extremely suspicious that one hadn't surfaced yet...or been provided by authorities.
Thanks!
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 9:29 am
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:29 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:I think you might be correct, Brown is protecting people.
It has been extremely suspicious that one hadn't surfaced yet...or been provided by authorities.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:34 am to IvoryBillMatt
Thank you, IvoryB… that’s depressing as hell.
It’s interesting that the security may have disabled to cover for protests, obstruction and whatnot.
I’m also of a mind to think “screw it, if they don’t care why should I?”… except if this event is ‘successful’ it’ll definitely happen somewhere else, and somewhere else again, over and over until it’s in ALL our backyards.
These stupid colleges have certainly made easy, ripe targets of themselves, haven’t they?
PS- please forgive typos- the autocorrect on this phone is awful and I just can’t see it as good as the iPad.
It’s interesting that the security may have disabled to cover for protests, obstruction and whatnot.
I’m also of a mind to think “screw it, if they don’t care why should I?”… except if this event is ‘successful’ it’ll definitely happen somewhere else, and somewhere else again, over and over until it’s in ALL our backyards.
These stupid colleges have certainly made easy, ripe targets of themselves, haven’t they?
PS- please forgive typos- the autocorrect on this phone is awful and I just can’t see it as good as the iPad.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:37 am to Jbird
Those are cameras used by professors to record lectures. They are not security cameras and don't stay in 24/7. Since there was no lecture going on that day, those cameras would have been off.
And this assumes this photo was taken by one of those cameras, which we don't know to be a fact. Could be anyone shooting with their cell phone.
And this assumes this photo was taken by one of those cameras, which we don't know to be a fact. Could be anyone shooting with their cell phone.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:38 am to AUstar
That very well could be.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:45 am to SallysHuman
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Thank you, IvoryB… that’s depressing as hell.
You're most welcome. How's Sally?
It's entertaining how you got a downvote for asking a question. As far as I can tell, I have a swarm of people suggesting I'm trying to steer this narrative in favor of the University.
Unfortunately, all of them are too cowardly to cite any evidence of that.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:52 am to IvoryBillMatt
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How's Sally?
Lonely.. she’s got the house to herself, me and the boy are out of town and hubby is at work.
I’d bet money she’s spread herself out across the bed pillows- her arse on my pillow and her drooly mouth on my husband’s.
quote:
It's entertaining how you got a downvote for asking a question.
I have at least two dedicated haters on this board, at a minimum. I won’t feel complete until I collect at least ten.
Anywho, thank you for the recap, I really do appreciate it. Cheers!
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:53 am to AUstar
quote:
Those are cameras used by professors to record lectures. They are not security cameras and don't stay in 24/7. Since there was no lecture going on that day, those cameras would have been off.
And this assumes this photo was taken by one of those cameras, which we don't know to be a fact. Could be anyone shooting with their cell phone
I think you're right, but it was really helpful just to see the layout of the room. Also, I'm not sure the camera would have been off. The exam review could have warranted recording. I suspect it was up to the T.A.'s discretion.
One thing that seems likely: at least ONE student out of the approximately 60 present was recording the session for reference later.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:54 am to Jbird
Here's the real questions ...
Shooting happens.
1. How long until police arrive?
Assumed the other class participants, some sheltered in place (ie duck and cover), some may have run when it occurred, etc ... but if you're a smart student who wasn't targeted, you aren't following a shooter out of the building ...
2. How do you not get the identities of the sheltered in place students (not every student vacated the room) before they leave the scene?
The idea that they have to email possible participants is Barney Fife level incompetent police work ... they should have at least 10+ eye witnesses that shouldn't have been allowed to leave without identification and clearance as suspects ...
And those 10+ individuals should already have given enough information for at least 2-3 credible leads ...
Shooting happens.
1. How long until police arrive?
Assumed the other class participants, some sheltered in place (ie duck and cover), some may have run when it occurred, etc ... but if you're a smart student who wasn't targeted, you aren't following a shooter out of the building ...
2. How do you not get the identities of the sheltered in place students (not every student vacated the room) before they leave the scene?
The idea that they have to email possible participants is Barney Fife level incompetent police work ... they should have at least 10+ eye witnesses that shouldn't have been allowed to leave without identification and clearance as suspects ...
And those 10+ individuals should already have given enough information for at least 2-3 credible leads ...
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:55 am to SallysHuman
quote:
Anywho, thank you for the recap, I really do appreciate it. Cheers!
You're most welcome. Thanks for the update and perspective:)
Cheers!
Posted on 12/18/25 at 9:56 am to AmishSamurai
Investigators recovered live rounds from Brown University shooting scene: sources
Providence police say DNA evidence recovered at Brown University shooting scene
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/brown-university-mass-shooting-manhunt-gunman-12-18-2025
Providence police say DNA evidence recovered at Brown University shooting scene
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/brown-university-mass-shooting-manhunt-gunman-12-18-2025
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:05 am to AmishSamurai
quote:
Here's the real questions ...
Shooting happens.
1. How long until police arrive?
Agree all the way round.
The cover-up of basic facts at BEST masks incompetence, at worst covers for Islamic Terrorism.
I have never seen a case with so much police response give so few details. I can't find any record of when "the police" (Providence? Because the Brown University police seem MIA) arrived at the classroom. The best I can find is that a patrol car with flashing lights arrived "near the building" three minutes after the shooting stopped.
The campus alert of an active shooter did not get sent until over TWENTY MINUTES AFTER the shooting.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:14 am to loogaroo
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Providence police say DNA evidence recovered at Brown University shooting scene
Thanks, loogaroo. From what I'm reading, that kind of "weak DNA" (as opposed to blood or saliva) would take "a week or two" to be ready for a database search. Let's hope the perp is in the system.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:22 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:The newer testing looks for anyone that's a relative, helps find people who aren't DNA printed.
Let's hope the perp is in the system.
quote:
Familial DNA searching is a forensic technique that seeks to identify a potential suspect by searching a DNA database for a close biological relative of the individual who left a DNA sample at a crime scene.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:30 am to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 12/18/25 at 10:30 am to Jbird
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The newer testing looks for anyone that's a relative, helps find people who aren't DNA printed.
Thank, Jbird. Does it include people from Lebanon?
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