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re: Black fatigue and a new call for trillions in reparations

Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:13 pm to
Million man march was the start of black fatigue.

The racism grift is done.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:17 pm to
No reparations without compensations!
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 7:18 pm
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:18 pm to
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No reputations without compensations!


Posted by BarberitosDawg
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:19 pm to
Got me…
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:23 pm to
Hey, emotional woman



You, every damn day
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:24 pm to
Look man for what this country spent on iraq/Afghanistan we could all have a mansion in the hillside…
We got nothing from that.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:24 pm to
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Look man for what this country spent on iraq/Afghanistan we could all have a mansion in the hillside… We got nothing from that.


Won’t argue with that.

ETA: But it is what it is.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Narax
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:29 pm to
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Why do you think I'm personally blaming you or your specific ancestors for slavery? My ancestors didn't participate in slavery either but we are all Americans and Americans did. When I say "we," I don't mean "Narax owned slaves."


No one here owned slaves. Literally no one.
You can't punish the living for things the dead did.

And yes after trillions in handouts that don't work, more reparations would hurt all non black Americans.

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You should read The Color of Money by Mehrsa Baradaran.

What book do you think describes how after 1910 there were no more legal barriers for Black Americans. That's literally the book I'm talking about I read it cover to cover. Again if you read the book you would know which chapters I am referencing. Again if you read the book as more than a confirmation of your own biases you see that every financial crisis wiped out mismanaged Black banks.
It's a great book, but if you read it as a racial warrior you won't get why the failure of George Romney was the turning point (downwards from there) of Black success.

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The FIRREA was passed after more than 1,000 banks and thrifts failed due to deregulation, risky investments, and widespread fraud - aka MAGA's platform.

You really should have read The Color of Money, Baradaran specifically calls out FIRREA.

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FIRREA was not aimed at black banks or communities. The S&L crisis in th 80s that prompted the FIRREA mostly affected white-owned savings banks and was caused by bad regulatory policy, not community-based banking decisions.

You need to reread the book.

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During the Great Migration black Americans did not choose to move into poor areas. They were forced into racially segregated neighborhoods due to discriminatory housing covenants, violence from white residents and police, realtors’ steering and blockbusting, and denial of mortgages and loans in white areas.

Thats a lie, they were poor and unskilled and could not afford any other areas.
No one herded them in.
They worked mainly through black banks that handed out risky loans because the color of the skin of the recipient.
And they massively failed again and again due to risky finances, and a tiny customer base.

That repeatedly wiped out the black middle class.
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Cities weren’t just going to get redlined. Redlining was a deliberate, federally sanctioned policy carried out by the Home Owners’ Loan Corporation and FHA, specifically targeting Black neighborhoods as high-risk, regardless of income. This blocked Black families from accessing the mortgage subsidies that built the white middle class after WWII


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Far from "ironically" issuing a few loans to African-Americans in an "initial phase" and then becoming a major promoter of redlining, HOLC actually refinanced mortgage loans for African-Americans in near proportion to the share of African-American homeowners. The pattern of loans had basically no relationship to the "redlining" maps because the program to create the maps did not even begin until after 90% of HOLC refinancing agreements had already been concluded.

According to a paper by economic historian Price V. Fishback and three co-authors, issued in 2021

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As for private lenders, though Kenneth T. Jackson's claim that they relied on the HOLC's maps to implement their own discriminatory practices has been widely repeated, the evidence is weak that private lenders had access to the maps


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Redlining did affect other groups, like immigrants, but Black Americans were the most systematically and consistently targeted, with explicit racial language used in housing policies.

European immigrants could “become white" and move into better housing. Blacks Americans could not.

Again though, those neighborhoods were bad, they had shoddy construction and high crime.
Black people moved into crap neighborhoods because they were unskilled migrants.
OMG how racist of the government to recognize how crappy the neighborhood was.

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Many black families supported busing because their kids were being denied equal educational resources. The implementation was flawed, typically done without community input. To say “they asked for it” blames black communities for trying to escape inferior conditions created by white supremacy that you deny ever existed.

Of course overall minority schools were worse (unless they were near a HBCU or similar institution)
And then it went downhill.
Don't expect others to feel guilty when something you lobbied for blew up.
This is the problem, it's not that we shouldn't say oh wow they tried and failed, you want Americans to feel guilty that they backed a loser of an idea that blew up.

Do you see there is no end to liberal ideas that hurt the people they are trying to help?
Trans theory?
Drug zones?
Abortion?

I'm not against your ideas because I hate them or black people I'm against them because they don't work, have not worked, and will never work, all they do is crate angry maladjusted children who kill each other.

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Who waved their wand to magically end this oppression? Redlining was legal until the Fair Housing Act of 1968

Answered your own question.

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School segregation is still rampant due to district boundaries and white flight.


If you raise monsters who kill each other then people with means both white and black will move their kids to any other school district.

Plenty of black kids in suburban schools, they even have a lot of friends, one might even say they are often popular. (your mileage may vary per child unfortunately)

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Mass incarceration policies disproportionately targeted Black communities starting in the 1970s and continue today.

Because of stupidly violent behavior.

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This claim ignores the sabotage and underfunding of social programs, as well as the targeted dismantling of efforts like the War on Poverty, affirmative action, and school desegregation. It also erases the impact of ongoing discrimination in policing, education, employment, and healthcare (which you also deny the existence of). Many policies that were successful (e.g., Head Start, Medicaid, Civil Rights Act) did help, but structural inequality persisted because it was never fully dismantled.


They got vastly more help than any other group in American post 1964.
And it destroyed them.

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Correct. Money didn't create these problems, the white men who have governed this country for centuries did.

Like FDR who opened civil service?
Truman who desegregated the military?
Eisenhower who sent troops to Little Rock?

How many black people were born pre FDR, much less remember life before him?

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Recognizing historical and ongoing oppression is not “victimhood,” it’s telling the truth.

Historical is the truth.
Ongoing is a lie. Black people have more advantages and get more benefits per person than anyone else in America.

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Discriminatory housing
Over
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Underfunded schools

Lies, they get more funding per tax paid than any
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Mass incarceration

Self Caused
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Police brutality

Rumors quickly dispelled by body cameras
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Employment discrimination

DEI has given them jobs they never earned, it's white males that get discriminated against, you know you would be the first person to hire a unqualified black woman over a qualified white male because she deserves it and you want to hurt him.
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Healthcare disparities

unhealthy life style.

You can keep playing pretend, but the rest of us live in the real world where we know if poor people are to succeed, they are going to have to stop blaming others.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:35 pm to
Hey 4cubbies



Keep being emotional, it’s all you have…
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:36 pm to
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You can keep playing pretend, but the rest of us live in the real world where we know if poor people are to succeed, they are going to have to stop blaming others.




Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:44 pm to
Waiting on another moronic response…

Do you have to ask your husband what to say…?
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:26 pm to
A black male would rape and kill you no matter how much you try to justify them.

Remember that, you are nothing…
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61399 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:36 pm to
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A black male would rape and kill you no matter how much you try to justify them.


Coincidentally, I my virginity to rape and the guy who raped me was white
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:44 pm to
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Do you have to ask your husband what to say…?


No. Do you?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61399 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:48 pm to
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Notice how she just sped past all the posts about the breakdown of the black family and how it’s at the root of almost all the issues in that community


I haven’t read every single post. Poverty seems to be the root of almost all the issues.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:49 pm to
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I mean this with all honesty, do you feel that the black community is at all responsible, even partially, for any of the negatives that occur in their community or is everything bad the result of “the system?”


Of course. Everyone has agency.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61399 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:52 pm to
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She’s an emotional thinker, they never think straight.


If you consider being not-emotional calling someone names and just repeating “you’re wrong. You’re stupid. You’re ignorant. You’re wrong,” - well you don’t know what words mean darling. Luckily I used to teach third grade so I have a lot of experience helping people on your level.

First lets count the syllables in “emotional.” It might help you to clap them out. You got this!
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 8:53 pm
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:53 pm to
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No. Do you?


Lol, again, that’s the best your retarded arse can come up with.

Oh, by the way, I’m married to a woman who would be better than you if she was dead.

Please, continue you with your ignorance..:
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:55 pm to
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If you consider being not-emotional calling someone names and just repeating “you’re wrong. You’re stupid. You’re ignorant. You’re wrong,” - well you don’t know what words mean darling. Luckily I used to teach third grade so I have a lot of experience helping people on your level. First lets count the syllables in “emotional.” It might help you to clap them out. You got this!


Awww, the sniveling pussy speaks again. Keep it up, please. You are the stain on your family name…


The stupid bitch actually said clapping
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61399 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 8:55 pm to
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I think he’s referring to the dunce.


I was born in the 80s.
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