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re: Billionaire tax divides California Democrats

Posted on 11/1/26 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by Tarps99
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 12:37 pm to
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By voting “yes” on proposition 40, Californians would support a one-time 5 percent tax on billionaires’ wealth. The government revenue from the wealth tax,


Why only one year? Why not make it an annual tax? Levy 1% surtax on all income over 5 million no deductions and call it a day. Feds should do something similar instead of all the racket with deductions for this and that.
This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 12:38 pm
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
21735 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 12:39 pm to
I love how they are making it retroactive. Normally you pass an law and make it effective in the future allowing the citizens ample time to, in this case, move. What a communist move.

Its what NY did to Trump, passed a law, made it retroactive so that loon could sue him. When she failed she sued for slander. Thats akin to shooting a burglar and being sued, if she had not started it the slander would have never occurred.

Talk about killing the golden goose. Its not just the billionaires its the 100s of thousands of high net worth individuals that will move when the businesses are moved. Course it will solve their housing problem.

Its supposedly because the BBB is cutting down on money spend on medicaid. Well maybe if they did not spend coverage twice the percentage of people covered in other states, ie illegals, they would not have a problem.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
21735 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 12:43 pm to
They think the tax could bring in 100 billion a good portion to be spent on health care............how about they fix this instead:

quote:

Medi-Cal & Healthcare/Hospice Fraud: Estimates of improper payments and program losses span anywhere from $95 billion to $146 billion, alongside large-scale hospice and pharmacy billing schemes (such as tens of millions to hundreds of millions in targeted law enforcement crackdowns like Operation Skip Trace


Total fraud in California is estimated between 180 to 280 billion.

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 12:43 pm to
Because the want a wealth tax brah.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
21735 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 12:53 pm to
Now Jbird are you saying they will then go after the 1.1 million millionaires in the state, just one time a swear
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
6897 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 12:54 pm to
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love how they are making it retroactive. Normally you pass an law and make it effective in the future allowing the citizens ample time to, in this case, move. What a communist move.

I was thinking about that too, Trinidad. Like how they have with that tax on people that leave the state.

quote:

Talk about killing the golden goose. Its not just the billionaires its the 100s of thousands of high net worth individuals that will move when the businesses are moved. Course it will solve their housing problem.

Do they think that far ahead? It kinda doesn't seem like it.
The housing problem. Yeah it could. But, it might not.
If they scare off all the big companies and good jobs, people still wouldn't be able to afford the ridiculous rent.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 12:56 pm to
I know people that work in finance in CA.

Their wealthiest clients have all moved after this was announced.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 1:14 pm to
Lol
I see you have an IRA hate to see some wealth tax foist upon you millionaires!
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 1:15 pm to
The locust will vote Dem and duck up another State.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64628 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 1:51 pm to
How are they going to determine a person's wealth without massively invading their privacy?
Posted by StroKat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2018
909 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 1:53 pm to
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There's a reason why there isn't a nationwide billionaires tax. And while it does affect the economy
The truth is, is that billionaires are DONORS


I'm a billionaire and have settled in Texas. I would never move back to California where I started.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
10845 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 1:57 pm to
Rich dems are a bunch of posers when the party starts going after their dough.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
7365 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 1:58 pm to
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More than 90% of it will be stolen by fraudsters


Let's say it is spent responsibly, what happens when it is spent in 2 yrs, where does the money come to sustain the extra spending?
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32633 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 2:01 pm to
The billionaires should leave. Cali State government isn’t owed that money. Immigrants and unemployed lowlifes arent owed healthcare. The made this bed, lay it it.
This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 2:05 pm
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
4593 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 2:18 pm to
15 billion on a system that will never be done.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
84166 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 2:23 pm to
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Does Bezos live out there? Do people comprehend how many people work for Amazon directly or indirectly?


Bezos wouldn't lay off Californians or close distribution centers.

Not sure where he lives. If he lives in CA he'll need to liquidate enough shares to pay the bill. That much stock hitting the market will drop the price which will screw every working stiff who has AMZN in their investment account, as well as CALPERS if they're invested in AMZN (or whatever other companies have billionaire founders).

Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
21735 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 2:50 pm to
Ironic you bring up Amazon. They have reduced their workforce by 11,000 in Seattle and moved those jobs to Bellevue because the city keeps fcking them on stupid taxes.

• JumpStart Payroll Expense Tax: An employer-paid tax on high-earning employees. For 2026, it applies to businesses with at least $9,074,409 in prior-year Seattle payroll that pay employees compensation of $194,452 or more, with rates ranging from 0.746% to 2.557% depending on the tier. Detailed guidance is available through the Seattle Payroll Expense Tax Portal.

• Seattle Social Housing Tax: Approved by voters, this imposes a 5% levy paid by employers on the Seattle-attributable portion of any employee's annual compensation exceeding $1 million.

So make the minium wage for legals 22 bucks, make yourself a sanctuary city.....and then be surprised housing is a problem when 1000s of illegals move into the city. Then make companies who are paying legals to also support the illegals.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:52 pm to
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Ironic you bring up Amazon. They have reduced their workforce by 11,000 in Seattle and moved those jobs to Bellevue because the city keeps fcking them on stupid taxes


Sure, if you're taxing the business activity you'll get less of it.

Wealth tax affects shareholders on an individual level and they'll adjust their personal finances accordingly.
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