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re: Bill Barr orders Rosenstein to conduct full audit of Carter Page FISA Warrant
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:23 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:23 pm to BBONDS25
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They would still need to verify it. Did anyone at the FBI ask Steele if the allegations were verified?
As best I can tell a case agent would check the draft application against what their source told the them (according to their files). That is the check for accuracy - that the application reflects what their source told them. They don’t have to interview the subsources on down the line or otherwise provide proof of the assertions. If they had to prove it otherwise why would they need to offer the source’s statements in the first place?
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 1:24 pm
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:28 pm to Decatur
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That is the check for accuracy - that the application reflects what their source told them.
Incorrect. They have to ask their source how it was vetted and verified. You are claiming there is no verification beyond “this is what our source said”. That is laughably wrong. That was the type of work the got Mueller in trouble and led to the Woods Procedures.
Your argument is that the FBI is completely incompetent. Or that Steele lies to the FBI. Your pick.
Or you are disingenuous.
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:28 pm to Decatur
We all know what SHOULD happen.
We also know what DIDN'T happen. We know full well the dossier wasn't verified because Congressional testimony tell us it wasn't.
You don't validate something this important from the fricking comments section of a CNN article for fricks sake.
We also know what DIDN'T happen. We know full well the dossier wasn't verified because Congressional testimony tell us it wasn't.
You don't validate something this important from the fricking comments section of a CNN article for fricks sake.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:40 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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You do realize that the Q crowd realized
ugh....
I'd rather be part of the "Q crowd" than some phony "conservative" who said Obama was a "good man who meant well," and has referred to our current great President as tRUMP 300 times.
I swear you have a lot of folks fooled, dude. Not me, though.
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:41 pm to BBONDS25
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They have to ask their source how it was vetted and verified.
I’m sure all the discussions about subsources and typical caveats were had.
Steele’s statements and his status as a source who was reliable in the past were presented to the judges. Considering that and other unknown evidence, all four judges agreed that probable cause was met. They knew that the information supplied by Steele was hearsay. It’s spelled out in the applications.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:42 pm to Decatur
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I’m sure all the discussions about subsources and typical caveats were had.
So your position is that Steele lied to the FBI. Got it. It’s a risky position to take. I wonder if it will look like a good argument in a few short months. It really is your only option, though. Otherwise you would have to admit wrongdoing on the FBIs part.
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:42 pm to Decatur
quote:Rexcatur taking the word of people that had their collective asses handed to them in the recent past over pulling shite in front of the FISC.
I’m sure
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:44 pm to BBONDS25
I think Steele told the FBI what his subsources told him.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:44 pm to Decatur
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I think
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:49 pm to Decatur
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think Steele told the FBI what his subsources told him.
Now you are being disingenuous. One of his major “sub sources” was a CNN chat room. Either the FBI didn’t ask him who his subsources were (meaning they are completely incompetent) or he lied to the FBI about who his sub source was. There is no third option. You went with Steele lied. You want to make that your final answer?
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:53 pm to BBONDS25
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One of his major “sub sources” was a CNN chat room.
Subsources are people, not old articles on the internet that are used to gather background information.
You can’t even characterize this part right.
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:56 pm to BBONDS25
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You went with Steele lied.
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Now you are being disingenuous.
So much bad faith, Bonds
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:57 pm to Decatur
Incorrect. Your options are the FBI is incompetent or Steele lied. There is no getting around it.
Unverified info was illegally presented to the FISA court. Your options for blame are the FBI or Steele. Your choice.
Unverified info was illegally presented to the FISA court. Your options for blame are the FBI or Steele. Your choice.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 1:57 pm to Decatur
You forgot to upvote your post.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:02 pm to TigerDoc
This investigation is nothing but a smoke screen. There was zero Russian collusion. However, that doesn’t mean Trump and his team weren’t giving signals to Russia about accepting any support they could get. It’s a thin line the Trump people were playing on during the 2016 election. I believe Mueller will touch on some of those areas in the report but it wont fall under collusion.
This investigation was an overreach of power by anti Trump forces. There needs to be a separate investigation into how we all got here in the first place.
This investigation was an overreach of power by anti Trump forces. There needs to be a separate investigation into how we all got here in the first place.
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:05 pm to Decatur
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So much bad faith, Bonds
Now I get it. You are trolling. Had me going. Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:07 pm to TOKEN
quote:Rexcatur is weeping.
This investigation is nothing but a smoke screen. There was zero Russian collusion. However, that doesn’t mean Trump and his team weren’t giving signals to Russia about accepting any support they could get. It’s a thin line the Trump people were playing on during the 2016 election. I believe Mueller will touch on some of those areas in the report but it wont fall under collusion. This investigation was an overreach of power by anti Trump forces. There needs to be a separate investigation into how we all got here in the first place.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:25 pm to Jbird
Just so people will know. The judges where lied to. This is a fact. Lied meaning that exculpatory evidence was not presented.
This is grounds for those involved to be jailed or reprimanded.
This did NOT happen! Why? Because the FISA judges are DS too!
This is grounds for those involved to be jailed or reprimanded.
This did NOT happen! Why? Because the FISA judges are DS too!
Posted on 3/19/19 at 2:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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