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Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:30 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:30 pm to
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Lol, pangolins
Everyone knows it was Bat Soup bro.



Recipe:
• One small bat.
• A bucket of bullshite.
• A sprinkle of birx.
• Ample fauci garnish.
• Overheat til liquified
• Stir often.
• Reheat til burnt
• Stir more.
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:31 pm to
Holy shite you’re a pompous a-hole.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:53 pm to


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This is real data from real empirical science and not some computer simulation rife with unknowns.




That's nice.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:01 pm to
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Oh my. Here I'll help you.

The Little Ice Age was a period of cooler climate that occurred roughly from the 14th century to the mid-19th century. It was characterized by cooling global climate patterns. Temperatures fluctuated with periods of more intense cooling unevenly impacting global regions. The effects were most pronounced in the Northern Hemisphere.

During the Little Ice Age, European and North American glaciers advanced and grew in size, creating various new glacial features such as moraines and fjords.

The climate fluctuations had a significant impact on agriculture, causing food shortages and famines, and had far-reaching social and economic consequences. Crop failures led to food shortages, which, in turn, contributed to social unrest and migration. E.g., There is some evidence the Little Ice Age played a role in events like the French Revolution.

The Little Ice Age gradually declined during the 19th century, with temperatures warming and glaciers retreating. The warming trend continued into the 20th and 21st centuries where it merged into AGW warmist theory.





I didn't say there was no such thing as a "Little Ice Age" and you know that because you can read. I said there was no such thing as a "Little Ice Age climate flux". You just took off the "climate flux" at the end so you could metaphorically bang another dose of "gotcha" into what few good metaphorical veins you have left.

What does that even mean, "climate flux" ? How can a complex system of physical phenomena "flux" ? You're the one who likes to get hung up on words, right?


You should try reading more and writing less.

LINK

What you need to understand, it is not the job of climate modellers to predict how much fossil fuel people are going to burn. Economists do that, different lane. The climate modellers can only make predictions that are contingent on an assumed level of fossil fuel combustion.



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A number of high-profile model projections—H88 Scenarios A and B and the IPCC FAR in particular—have been criticized for projecting higher warming rates than observed (e.g., Michaels & Maue, 2018). However, these differences are largely driven by mismatches between projected and observed forcings. H88 A and B forcings increased 97% and 27% faster, respectively, than the mean observational estimate, and FAR forcings increased 55% faster. On an implied TCR basis, all three projections have high model skill scores and are consistent with observations.





This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 7:08 pm
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:05 pm to
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Holy shite you’re a pompous a-hole.




What's sad is you don't even realize how low I have set my standards. I would settle just for *one* good denialist argument that makes any sense at all, hasn't already been thoroughly debunked, and has nothing to do with what any politician or celebrity or little girl or reporter said because I don't care.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:09 pm to
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What does that even mean, "climate flux" ?
Which of those two words is confusing you?

climate - the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period.

flux - change, fluctuation.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:13 pm to
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During the vast majority of Earth's history atmospheric CO2 levels were 3 to 5 fold higher than at present, and occasionally much higher than that.


Why is most of the denier argument based on just listing random facts? It's an interesting strategy. Not very convincing.

Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:19 pm to
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flux - change, fluctuation.



In the physical sciences, flux generally refers to the flow of something physical from one place to another. Like heat. Mass. Carbon Dioxide. Hot air. And even more-so in the field of computational fluid dynamics. I figured you knew that so you'd know why I thought it was absurd of you to make up the term "climate flux" and use it like it meant something. Mea culpa.


I am ready to hear you criticisms of LINK whenever you have had time to digest the paper. No rush.

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:22 pm to
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What you need to understand, it is not the job of climate modellers to predict how much fossil fuel people are going to burn. Economists do that, different lane. The climate modellers can only make predictions that are contingent on an assumed level of fossil fuel combustion.
What you need to understand is the degree to which you are unfamiliar with natural historical and prehistorical climate change, and the importance of it.

E.g., The Little Ice Age, with which you now claim sudden familiarity, gave way to a period of warming. Why did that happen? What caused increasingly cooler climate fluctuations to arise? What caused the subsequent warming? What would the trajectory of that warming be, sans AGW? Likewise, what is causative of Quaternary climate cycles?
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3420 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:27 pm to
Lightly skimming through the latter pages of this thread helped to verify to me that the poster Peebles is a freaking idiot. Still waiting on obtaining a response to certain a particular question asked previously:

How do you get around from place to place, and how do you live and eat, etc. and how you have implemented changes in your lifestyle that you and your ilk wish to impose on US citizens? Please describe how you are implementing and living currently regarding supposed manmade climate change issues in your daily life.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:31 pm to
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flux generally refers to the flow of something physical from one place to another. Like heat.
Have you ever soldered? No? I guess flux would confuse you in that context as well. In medicine flux refers to liquid, profuse shite.

Flux, in that sense, might be more descriptive of your posts here.

I'm sorry you were unfamiliar with TLIA. I'm embarrassed you are not familiar with the term flux.
I'm amazed you'd do this to yourself.
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 7:32 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:36 pm to
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I am ready to hear you criticisms of LINK






Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:02 pm to
Dude. WTF? I mean, are you for real? Soldering has absolutely nothing to do with climate modelling. Neither does medicine. How am I even to respond to BS like that ?

I can't figure out if I should laugh or cry you're too much.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:11 pm to
What's a "perturbed physics ensemble" ?
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:23 pm to
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How do you get around from place to place, and how do you live and eat, etc. and how you have implemented changes in your lifestyle that you and your ilk wish to impose on US citizens?


What changes are those? Listen, if you wanna go buy an entire tanker truck full of fuel and run it off a cliff I could not care less. Nothing you do is gonna make a difference. Go for it if it makes you feel better. Better yet, get a whole fleet of tanker trucks. Run them off cliffs of varying heights. See how far up you gotta go to get it to reliably explode on impact. Maybe you can even find some dumb TikTocker to ride them down, it could be the latest Tic Tock challenge. You know it's possible Tiktockers have done st even dumber than that. Take video. And absolutely, do share.



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Please describe how you are implementing and living currently regarding supposed manmade climate change issues in your daily life.


I'm not quite sure how. I'd be grateful if you could correct my ignorance. Thanks!

This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:25 pm to
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E.g., The Little Ice Age, with which you now claim sudden familiarity, gave way to a period of warming. Why did that happen? What caused increasingly cooler climate fluctuations to arise? What caused the subsequent warming? What would the trajectory of that warming be, sans AGW? Likewise, what is causative of Quaternary climate cycles?




I'm sure those are all great questions. When you're ready to tell us what you found out about answering them, I'm ready to give them some thought.

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:29 pm to
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What's a "perturbed physics ensemble" ?
An educated guess. A computer aided educated guess put together to account for uncertainties in underlying processes, parameters or variables.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:31 pm to
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perturbed physics ensemble
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An educated guess. A computer aided educated guess put together to account for uncertainties in underlying processes, parameters or variables.





No it's not. You just made that up. You can't even comprehend the words in the abstract of the first paper you referenced. Did you read any of them? At all? Seriously?

If you do not understand the abstract of a paper, you really shouldn't cite it, because it means you have no clue what it says and you're just hoping it says what you really want it to say and that's just sad.

Better yet, don't cite anything you cannot explain.


Thank you.
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 8:37 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135618 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:36 pm to
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I'm sure those are all great questions. When you're ready to tell us what you found out about answering them, I'm ready to give them some thought.
Oh sweetheart, it's your field. I'm just a regular Joe in an armchair waiting for you to explain the cause of natural climate change in these instances.
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:38 pm to
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Oh sweetheart, it's your field.


No it isn't.

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I'm just a regular Joe in an armchair waiting for you to explain the cause of natural climate change in these instances.




Why are you waiting for me? Why don't you go find out yourself? You're being ridiculous.



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