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re: Biden tapping Bill Nye the 'not really a' science guy

Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:48 pm to
You can't make a comment on your beliefs.

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:55 pm to
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No it's not.
But it is. Sorry.

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You just made that up.
Yeah, and I had a little fun doing it. One man's set of simulations or models is another's educated guess. Don't let that chain I'm yanking leave bruises, now.

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You can't even comprehend the words in the abstract of the first paper you referenced.
Oh my. Was it over your head? I apologize from the bottom of my heart. Sorry.

Peebles, you would do far better focusing on your own understanding or lack thereof, than presuming you know anything about what I "comprehend."
Posted by Peebles
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:56 pm to
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You can't make a comment on your beliefs.


I try to avoid beliefs as much as possible.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:56 pm to
And apparently facts questions and links.

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:00 pm to
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it's your field.

No it isn't.
Ah, that explains your confusion with the paper then.
Posted by Peebles
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:05 pm to
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quote]But it is. Sorry.

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Sure I guess if you are trying to explain it at the level that a 3rd grader can comprehend. I'll give you that. Touche! Kinda loses most of the meaning there when you gotta dumb it down that far though.



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One man's set of simulations or models is another's educated guess.


You made that up. You haven't bothered to do any research on the matter. At all. Zero. You wouldn't even know a fluid dynamics model if it hit you in the face. If your life depended on explaining the difference between a Godunov solver and a Dirichlet boundary condition, we'd all be paying our respects.


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This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 9:06 pm
Posted by Peebles
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:10 pm to
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And apparently facts questions and links.


What facts am I avoiding ?


Do you get that forming an argument for or in favour of something is a little more involved than just listing random facts? Do I really gotta explain to you that you need to a) say what you are arguing b) list evidence and c) explain how the evidence supports your argument ? You are great at b), congratulations, A+. F on the other two
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:17 pm to
That comment is exactly what you haven't done

What have done is avoid questions

I remember chuckle nuts like you claiming the second coming of the ice age in the late 70s would have north America covered in ice by 2000
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 9:18 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:17 pm to
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You wouldn't even know a fluid dynamics model if it hit you in the face.
I warned you about assumptions as to what I know. Didn't I? I thought I did.

Blood is a complex fluid with unique rheological properties. FDMs consider the viscosity, density, and shear-thinning behavior of blood to accurately simulate its flow.

Insofar as I have been occasionally hit by blood in the face under difficult circumstances, you probably should guess again.
Posted by Peebles
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 11:20 pm to
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What have done is avoid questions
? Ok ? I'm not here to undergo interrogation. What on earth led you to believe I was ?



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I remember chuckle nuts like you claiming the second coming of the ice age in the late 70s would have north America covered in ice by 2000


Um



........yeah




That didn't happen.



Sorry!


Posted by Peebles
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 11:23 pm to
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Blood is a complex fluid with unique rheological properties. FDMs consider the viscosity, density, and shear-thinning behavior of blood to accurately simulate its flow.



Are you sure it's not metal used to connect things together ?


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Insofar as I have been occasionally hit by blood in the face under difficult circumstances, you probably should guess


How much blood do you have to get hit with to become an expert on computational fluid dynamics ?

Or....forget that. I've always wanted to be able to land an airplane. On a boat. At night. In the rain. How much blood do I gotta get hit with to learn how to do that ?
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 11:37 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 4:23 am to
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How much blood do you have to get hit with to become an expert on computational fluid dynamics ?
None, certainly.
But those moments do teach a bit about life, and the hazards of guesses and assumptions.

Cardiology
LINK ]Systematic review on the application of computational fluid dynamics as a tool for the design of coronary artery stents

Neurosurgery
LINK ]Clinical application of image-based computational fluid dynamics for cerebral aneurysms

Nephrology
LINK ]Impact of side-hole geometry on the performance of hemodialysis catheter tips: A computational fluid dynamics assessment

Infectious Disease
LINK ]Airborne and aerosol pathogen transmission modeling of respiratory events in buildings: An overview of computational fluid dynamics

I could go on citing CFD work in a dozen other medical fields, hundreds in each.

But the question you really need to ask yourself at this stage, as you try to pick yourself up from the canvas, is "Did I learn something here?"
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 5:25 am to
Um

You

Are

A

Liar
Posted by Peebles
Member since Jul 2022
222 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 6:44 am to
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Um

You

Are

A

Liar



K. I mean, there isn't any evidence that what you say is true. But if pretending like I'm a liar makes you feel better, I don't care.
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 6:45 am
Posted by Peebles
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 6:46 am to
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But the question you really need to ask yourself at this stage, as you try to pick yourself up from the canvas, is "Did I learn something here?"


I learned that you think if you can make a list of citations that means you know all the stuff in the cited papers. That's cute. A little naive but cute. Whatever you gotta do to keep your ego up I guess.
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 6:48 am
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 6:55 am to
67 posts of drivel.

Alter trolls truly suck arse.
Posted by Peebles
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222 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 6:57 am to
When you have something of value to say I'm ready.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 6:59 am to
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When you have something of value to say I'm ready.



You first.
Posted by Peebles
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 7:11 am to
OK. I guess we will start with the basics.

You claim a scientific consensus on north America being covered by ice by 2000 existed in the 70's.

The next step is for you to provide evidence supporting this claim.


Do you know what evidence is? E...v...i ..d...e...n...c...e. if you forget ask your homeroom teacher if you can borrow a dictionary.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 7:12 am to
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There are over 200 computer models that predict a catastrophic future. None have been validated with real data. None


This is the real "inconvenient truth." Despite input of verified historical data, none of these models have ever correctly "predicted" current conditions. Of course, that doesn't even scratch the surface.

The entire AGW/climate change grift is based upon an extremely abbreviated (and narrow) data set. Despite the assertion "weather =/= climate," it's historical weather data that goes into these models. There's only been what could be considered "global" weather data since the late 1880s. So about 150 years of 5 billion. Statistically insignificant by any measure.

Then, when you did down into that data, you see the flaws. BIG flaws.

Take a look at a map of global reporting stations. Africa, Russia, Central Asia have a paucity of stations considering their size - to the point that the data for these regions is ESTIMATED by models. Yep, you heard right...guesses are already part of the analysis.

Then, look at reporting stations in Europe and USA. Many used to he in the middle of nowhere, gar outside of the cities or at the periphery of airfields. Many have had cities (and airports) expand to envelope them - literally surrounding them with heat island effects from concrete/asphalt or reflected sunlight. Hell, a number of years back they found one that had a heat exhaust within 10 feet of it.

The axiom "garbage in/garbage out" is so on the nose for climate change "science" it is laughable - or would be, if this "science" was not being used to fundamentally alter economies and lives.

Of course, the nagging question - and one that none of the zealots can (or will) answer - is: What is the "global" temperature supposed to be?

Because if the appropriate natural (non-man influenced) "global" temperature is not known, then how can you know whether any proposed solution is correct?

If "global" temperature with man's influence is A. And the "answers" to address it are B, then that means the "global" temperature without man's influence (i.e, with the "solutions" to address it) is C.

A + (-B) = C

You MUST know what C is to determine what B should be. If C is unkmown, B could be anything (and could be too much or too little).

So...what is C?

And, lastly, perhaps more attention should be paid to that massive fusion reactor 93 million miles away from Earth because there is more (and more scientifically supported) evidence that indicates sunspot activity and solar maximum/minimum phases are the warming "culprit."
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