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re: Biden admin discuss giving nukes to Ukraine
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Ukraine is not NATO.
Would you want to run the numbers of native Ukrainian missiles used in the war vs the number NATO missiles used in the war?
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:10 am to The Maj
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Eh, given the chance of proliferation from a cash strapped Ukraine
Why hasnt Pakistan nuked india?
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Why hasnt Pakistan nuked india?
Your strawman here has nothing to do with the proliferation that could have and more than likely would have occurred in the 90's had Ukraine been left to hold onto their nukes...
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:14 am to Seeing Grey
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Would you want to run the numbers of native Ukrainian missiles used in the war vs the number NATO missiles used in the war?
Put in Ukraine's arsenal. And they didnt use long range missiles until we gave them permission (which is retarded)
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:15 am to The Maj
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Your strawman
Its not.
Nukes are a deterrent. You dipshits used to believe this at one time.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Put in Ukraine's arsenal. And they didnt use long range missiles until we gave them permission (which is retarded)
So if you agree that almost all weapons Ukraine has used are NATO based and NATO is completely funding the war. It's a hell of leap to somehow suggest Ukraine is not a NATO proxy.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:25 am to Seeing Grey
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So if you agree that almost all weapons Ukraine has used are NATO based and NATO is completely funding the war.
Ukraine is NOT a NATO country.
You can pretend all you want.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You can pretend all you want.
So a trust fund kid can spend daddy's money, but theyre technically different people. So daddy has no say so in the matter, correct.
Talk about being a dipshit
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 11:30 am
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:30 am to Seeing Grey
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So a trust fund kid can spend daddy's money,
Youre flailing.
If Ukraine was NATO, we would have massive number of boots on the ground.
You people are like children
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:31 am to hawgfaninc
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Someone get this 82 year old out of office before he kicks off WWIII in the last month of his presidency.
Replying to @zerohedge
Dems: Trump is going to start WW3!
Also Dems: Here Ukraine, have some nukes.
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Someone get this 82 year old out of office before he kicks off WWIII in the last month of his presidency.
Replying to @zerohedge
Dems: Trump is going to start WW3!
Also Dems: Here Ukraine, have some nukes.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Youre flailing.
If Ukraine was NATO, we would have massive number of boots on the ground.
You people are like children
Children think in black and white, you're entire argument is based on the a technical definition, when there's a ton of evidence to contrary.
But hey, politicians would never misuse technical definitions to their benefit. So they must be gospel.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:43 am to hawgfaninc
Biden trying hard to make Trump focus on his frick ups instead of immigration policies.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:43 am to Seeing Grey
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Children think in black and white
Precisely.
Nukes created the "Long Peace"
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Reasons for the Long Peace have included the deterrence effect of nuclear weapons
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you're entire argument is based on the a technical definition
No, its based on historical fact.
Do guns cause crime?
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 11:45 am
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Have you ever heard of the "Long peace?" Of course you havent because youre a retard. Google it or have someone read it for you.
I have zero trust in Ukraine to handle nuclear weapons. One of the most corrupt countries in the world. You might as well give them to everyone.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Nukes are the ultimate deterrent.
Until they get used, then the other side is going to use their nuclear weapons. I don’t trust Zelensky to just sit on them.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:48 am to Roll Tide Ravens
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Until they get used,
Same argument Democrats use for firearms.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:49 am to Sofaking2
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I have zero trust in Ukraine to handle nuclear weapons.
How are you going to stop them from buying one?
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Nukes created the "Long Peace"
You know we started this conversation, where we agreed that nukes keep peace...
However, to continue peace, nukes need to be treated responsibly and giving them to Ukraine is not.
You just keep changing the subject when you're verifiably wrong. I've fed you long enough...
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 11:52 am
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:51 am to Seeing Grey
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You know we started this conversation, where we agreed that nukes keep peace...
They do,.
Russia would not have attacked if Ukraine had nukes.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 1:26 pm to hawgfaninc
If nukes are transferred, and if we live, Trump MUST put those responsible in prison. He'll have to liaison with Russia before inauguration and spin up every asset in our govt once in office. There are fricking Nazis in Ukraine. There is literally no way to know what would happen with nukes. They could end up with the Mexican cartels just as easily as being lobbed into Russia.
This is the biggest and reddest line possible.
This is the biggest and reddest line possible.
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