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re: Betting markets are currently pricing in a 95% chance of no change in interest rates

Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:12 am to
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179203 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:12 am to
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hey are too restrictive and it needs another 1% cut however you break it down by the end of the year. And they will be cutting


Too restrictive to what exactly? Too restrictive for businesses or consumer credit? A lot of consumer credit outside of mortgages is unsecured credit. Are you saying rates on credit cards are too restrictive?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93071 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:13 am to
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When did the Green New Deal pass?


Infrastructure bill, inflation reduction act, new green deal whats the difference

Can you link me to your threads where you were livid over that spending. For research purposes
Posted by TerraForma
Moscow, ID
Member since Mar 2025
166 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:13 am to
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However, if you want lower mortgage rates, then you should be crying about the money printing the Big Beautiful Bill will cause, which will affect the 10YY more than whatever the Fed does


The median 30-year mortgage rate since Freddie Mac began tracking rates in April 1971 is 7.33 percent. If you are holding out hope that rates will be sub-4% (maybe even sub-5%) I wouldn't bet on it. Those rates are a historic anomaly.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179203 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:14 am to
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Can you link me to your threads where you were livid over that spending. For research purposes



SFP has bitched about spending from both sides

He is harder on the so-called conservatives' spending because they are hypocrites. Everyone knows Dems are going to spend like crack whores.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33036 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:15 am to
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Dude crime is plummeting after the post Covid spike



I'm not talking holistically - I'm specifically referring to the areas near our biggest job markets. We need our younger folks to join the ownership class, and it's difficult in a lot of cities when the most convenient areas are either very expensive or very dangerous.

I figured that progressives like you would understand that. You guys tend to hate suburban sprawl. Nothing fuels that faster than a permanent criminal element in the inner cities where "right sized" housing was already built 50 years ago. The exact policies that y'all support are creating a problem that y'all try to fight by starving this country of highway infrastructure dollars and anti-development policies.

If we are going to deficit spend - we should do it to build something that will expand and boost our productivity and GDP. Things like bridges, highways, ports, etc. are worthwhile. Shoveling cash into Ukraine and boosting the welfare class or enriching the ruling class are not. This country pisses away so much money on things that we shouldn't be touching and we ignore the things we should be fixing. It's been a disaster for decades now and more Americans recognize that the government doesn't work for them.

That frustration is a big part of why people like Sanders, Paul, and Trump grew in popularity.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 8:20 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465347 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:15 am to
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Can you link me to your threads where you were livid over that spending.

I was against all of them and the Covid spending (Trump and Biden) that really inflamed inflation.

I've been quite open and consistent about this for almost 20 straight years.

I do note your framing, though. I don't get "livid" about politics. I'm not some emotional troglodyte like we see on here all the time. And I do know that the emotional types view not responding emotionally has turned into supporting the out group, in one of their most irrational displays.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465347 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:16 am to
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He is harder on the so-called conservatives' spending because they are hypocrites. Everyone knows Dems are going to spend like crack whores.

Exactly.

And the DEMs (I mean people more than pols) haven't spent 10+ years talking a big game about wanting lower spending only to end up never supporting it (and then trying to blame others for their support). The DEMs are open about their support of spending and lack the hypocrisy on the issue accordingly.

We know where the DEMs stand. There is no value or point in melting over it.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 8:17 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179203 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:17 am to
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and it's difficult in a lot of cities when the most convenient areas are either very expensive or very dangerous.


Gentrification, especially when encouraged and backed by the local municipality, is called racist and met with strong opposition. We are at a point where it has to happen naturally, and that is a large uphill battle.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93071 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:18 am to
So no links? No outrage the excuse is just thats what you expect
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133508 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:20 am to
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Gentrification, especially when encouraged and backed by the local municipality, is called racist and met with strong opposition.
I agree.

Imagine improving a city's appearance and attractiveness for new investment has become considered detrimental to the community.

That's how effed we've become as a nation.
Posted by WongsPalace
Member since Apr 2025
370 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:20 am to
Trump needs to listen to Bannon and tax the millionaires. It would solve every problem.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465347 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:22 am to
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I'm not talking holistically - I'm specifically referring to the areas near our biggest job markets

Crime is falling most in those urban areas.

We had a thread on it yesterday where data was posted about a few cities

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We need our younger folks to join the ownership class, and it's difficult in a lot of cities when the most convenient areas are either very expensive or very dangerous.

Those areas, even the bad ones, are less dangerous now than any time since like the 60s. I don't know what specific time range you're imagining as a comparison, but crime was insane from the 70s to the mid-90s in these areas. Unimaginable levels of crime compared to today.

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I figured that progressives like you



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Nothing fuels that faster than a permanent criminal element in the inner cities where "right sized" housing was already built 50 years ago.

50 years ago would be 1975 and crime was almost assuredly worse than today in whichever city you are thinking about.



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The exact policies that y'all support

Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179203 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:22 am to
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Imagine improving a city's appearance and attractiveness for new investment has become considered detrimental to the community.

That's how effed we've become as a nation.


My favorite part of it is that the same people who call it racist also call suburban sprawl racist.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465347 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:22 am to
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No outrage

You won't find "outrage" by me on almost any subject.

Again, I already pointed out your dishonest framing.
Posted by cusoonkpd
Big Mamou
Member since Apr 2015
1823 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:24 am to
Ain’t gonna happen.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33036 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:24 am to
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Gentrification, especially when encouraged and backed by the local municipality, is called racist and met with strong opposition


They can try to marginalize behavior they can't control. But gentrification needs to happen before the housing in the area becomes too far gone to fix.

And it needs to be smaller investors that revamp the existing housing stock.... not giant corporations that build giant rental housing that looks like human storage centers.

The people who don't like whites moving into their neighborhood end up being silent when the area gets so bad that huge developers come in and build giant apartment buildings so far beyond the size/scale of what the neighborhood has ever seen.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 8:28 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465347 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:25 am to
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Imagine improving a city's appearance and attractiveness for new investment has become considered detrimental to the community.

Gentrification is one of the weirdest topics.

It's not just the super liberals bitching about being racist, either. White, well-to-do urbanites often see it as a bad thing b/c it affects the "culture"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465347 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:25 am to
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But gentrification needs to happen before the housing in the area becomes too far gone to fix.

Weren't you just complaining about the higher pricing of homes?

Gentrification makes housing values/costs explode.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179203 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:29 am to
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And it needs to be smaller investors that revamp the existing housing stock


I am a very small investor, and I love the big, solidly built houses in Oak Park here in Lake Charles. I also love the way the neighborhood is laid out with back alleys. It would have to be an amazing opportunity for me to flip or invest in a rental in that area due to the crime. Especially as you get closer to 12th St. The Prien Lake Rd side isn't as bad yet, but not great either.

Every city has an area like that, and unless you have deep pockets and the support of the city, it's a huge gamble to take on.

Side note, when St Louis leaves the Garden District, which is separated from Oak Park by 12th St, I predict the GD too will suffer from the crime spread. It already has to some degree, so that will make another area risky for smaller investors that is currently pretty safe.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295145 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:30 am to
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Trump needs to listen to Bannon and tax the millionaires. It would solve every problem.


Another person who doesnt understand cause/effect.
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