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re: Ben Garrison new cartoon
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:19 am to Revelator
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:19 am to Revelator
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That’s not the point is it? The point is, the authoritarian Governor is deciding what can and can’t be open, and what can and can’t be sold.
That's not a point you made early on. Now that you have made it...have that discussion.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:19 am to Revelator
Not all states permit liquor sales in grocery stores or limit what types of liquor a store to sell, so yes liquor stores would be deemed essential since they would offer a product they can't get elsewhere
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:22 am to DMAN1968
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That's not a point you made early on. Now that you have made it...have that discussion.
Sure it is, at that’s what the cartoon depicts.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:23 am to tduecen
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Not all states permit liquor sales in grocery stores or limit what types of liquor a store to sell, so yes liquor stores would be deemed essential since they would offer a product they can't get elsewhere
Hair salons offer a service that isn’t available anywhere else, but they aren’t allowed to be open. You guys are chasing rabbits with this,” alcohol is essential crap. No, it’s not.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:23 am to Powerman
quote:Setting aside one’s philosophy regarding the abortion process, this presents an interesting question.
Abortions are very clearly elective procedures
If you are precluded by an executive order from getting liposuction today, you are still legally allowed to get that liposuction in June.
But if the same order prevents you from having an abortion today, will you be allowed to get that abortion in June? In most states, the answer is “no.”
Given those facts, is it really reasonable to treat the two procedures in the same manner during this “crisis?”
Prediction: 95% of responses will be either personal attacks or statements regarding the merits of abortion (or lack thereof). I am being generous in predicting that 5% may address the substantive question.
EDIT: 100% thus far.
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 7:57 am
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:25 am to Revelator
quote:You need to travel north of your bubble of south Louisiana. You can't buy liquor in grocery stores north of Alexandria.
Revelator
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:25 am to Revelator
quote:They are not, but that is not what PM argued, either.
How is a liquor store essential?
The question SHOULD be (as PM implied) whether a business or other interaction can operate with effective social distancing.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:27 am to Revelator
quote:Not in most states. Beer and wine? Yes. Booze? No.
You can buy your booze at the grocery stores.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:29 am to shrevetigertom
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Y ou need to travel north of your bubble of south Louisiana. You can't buy liquor in grocery stores north of Alexandria.
Not only have I been around the state, I’ve been around most of the states in the U.S.
So our jab is off base.
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 7:32 am
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:29 am to Revelator
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I get it, you are trying to be a funny man. You can buy your booze at the grocery stores. Liquor stores are not essential.
Not all states are Louisiana and sell liquor everywhere.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:31 am to AggieHank86
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The question SHOULD be (as PM implied) whether a business or other interaction can operate with effective social distancing.
In my mind, the cartoon depicts decisions being based on politics and not for heath reasons. Others might view it a different way.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:31 am to AggieHank86
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He can compress the most words into the smallest ideas of any man I ever met.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:33 am to AggieHank86
Aggie, how is bringing up liquor moving the goal post when one of the buildings in the cartoon is a liquor store ?
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:36 am to Revelator
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If y’all don’t sell booze in your grocery stores, you are the dumb asses.
Come on, man.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:37 am to Revelator
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How is a liquor store essential?
This essential versus non-essential labeling is complete bullshite. If you say that 10 or more people cannot gather, then that should apply to everything. Grocery stores and hardware stores are open and do even have to follow those guidelines, yet department stores are completely closed? What is the difference in shopping at Lowe’s compared to Macy’s?
All this does is allow the government to pick winners and losers.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:39 am to Revelator
quote:Perhaps. Some of it makes sense for the short-term duration of this “crisis.” and some does not.
In my mind, the cartoon depicts decisions being based on politics and not for heath reasons. Others might view it a different way.
As PM said, closing liquor stores (or any similar retail outlet) is silly, if one can maintain social distancing. Whether a bottle of rum or a package of boxer briefs, I can make my purchase at a safe distance from other shoppers.
From the perspective of containing the virus ONLY, closing churches is actually the most-clearly acceptable of the three, as church services are probably the closest physical proximity to other individuals that any person experiences each week ... unless he rides the NYC subway.
Setting aside personal feelings regarding the Constitutionality of the process, allowing access to abortion clinics makes sense for the reason that I outlined. Close them, and you do not just delay a constitutional right .. you preclude it altogether.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:39 am to Powerman
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You can practice social distancing there
There isn't a business out there that can't practice social distancing or some form of protective measures. Nothing should be outright closed.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:39 am to Revelator
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I get it, you are trying to be a funny man. You can buy your booze at the grocery stores. Liquor stores are not essential.
A lot of States don't allow anything but beer and wine at grocery
Now we can argue that these laws are BS
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:39 am to MexicanTiger97
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This essential versus non-essential labeling is complete bull shite. If you say that 10 or more people cannot gather, then that should apply to everything. Grocery stores and hardware stores are open and do even have to follow those guidelines, yet department stores are completely closed? What is the difference in shopping at Lowe’s compared to Macy’s? All this does is allow the government to pick winners and losers.
All of this !
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