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re: Ben Garrison new cartoon

Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:19 am to
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:19 am to
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That’s not the point is it? The point is, the authoritarian Governor is deciding what can and can’t be open, and what can and can’t be sold.

That's not a point you made early on. Now that you have made it...have that discussion.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:19 am to
Not all states permit liquor sales in grocery stores or limit what types of liquor a store to sell, so yes liquor stores would be deemed essential since they would offer a product they can't get elsewhere
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62023 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:22 am to
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That's not a point you made early on. Now that you have made it...have that discussion.


Sure it is, at that’s what the cartoon depicts.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62023 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:23 am to
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Not all states permit liquor sales in grocery stores or limit what types of liquor a store to sell, so yes liquor stores would be deemed essential since they would offer a product they can't get elsewhere



Hair salons offer a service that isn’t available anywhere else, but they aren’t allowed to be open. You guys are chasing rabbits with this,” alcohol is essential crap. No, it’s not.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:23 am to
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Abortions are very clearly elective procedures
Setting aside one’s philosophy regarding the abortion process, this presents an interesting question.

If you are precluded by an executive order from getting liposuction today, you are still legally allowed to get that liposuction in June.

But if the same order prevents you from having an abortion today, will you be allowed to get that abortion in June? In most states, the answer is “no.”

Given those facts, is it really reasonable to treat the two procedures in the same manner during this “crisis?”



Prediction: 95% of responses will be either personal attacks or statements regarding the merits of abortion (or lack thereof). I am being generous in predicting that 5% may address the substantive question.

EDIT: 100% thus far.
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 7:57 am
Posted by shrevetigertom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
4470 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:25 am to
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Revelator
You need to travel north of your bubble of south Louisiana. You can't buy liquor in grocery stores north of Alexandria.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:25 am to
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How is a liquor store essential?
They are not, but that is not what PM argued, either.

The question SHOULD be (as PM implied) whether a business or other interaction can operate with effective social distancing.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:27 am to
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You can buy your booze at the grocery stores.
Not in most states. Beer and wine? Yes. Booze? No.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62023 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:29 am to
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Y ou need to travel north of your bubble of south Louisiana. You can't buy liquor in grocery stores north of Alexandria.


Not only have I been around the state, I’ve been around most of the states in the U.S.
So our jab is off base.
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 7:32 am
Posted by MexicanTiger97
Member since May 2018
998 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:29 am to
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I get it, you are trying to be a funny man. You can buy your booze at the grocery stores. Liquor stores are not essential.


Not all states are Louisiana and sell liquor everywhere.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:30 am to
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booze ... alcohol
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62023 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:31 am to
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The question SHOULD be (as PM implied) whether a business or other interaction can operate with effective social distancing.


In my mind, the cartoon depicts decisions being based on politics and not for heath reasons. Others might view it a different way.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12632 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:31 am to
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He can compress the most words into the smallest ideas of any man I ever met.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62023 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:33 am to
Aggie, how is bringing up liquor moving the goal post when one of the buildings in the cartoon is a liquor store ?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62614 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:36 am to
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If y’all don’t sell booze in your grocery stores, you are the dumb asses.




Come on, man.
Posted by MexicanTiger97
Member since May 2018
998 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:37 am to
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How is a liquor store essential?


This essential versus non-essential labeling is complete bullshite. If you say that 10 or more people cannot gather, then that should apply to everything. Grocery stores and hardware stores are open and do even have to follow those guidelines, yet department stores are completely closed? What is the difference in shopping at Lowe’s compared to Macy’s?

All this does is allow the government to pick winners and losers.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:39 am to
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In my mind, the cartoon depicts decisions being based on politics and not for heath reasons. Others might view it a different way.
Perhaps. Some of it makes sense for the short-term duration of this “crisis.” and some does not.

As PM said, closing liquor stores (or any similar retail outlet) is silly, if one can maintain social distancing. Whether a bottle of rum or a package of boxer briefs, I can make my purchase at a safe distance from other shoppers.

From the perspective of containing the virus ONLY, closing churches is actually the most-clearly acceptable of the three, as church services are probably the closest physical proximity to other individuals that any person experiences each week ... unless he rides the NYC subway.

Setting aside personal feelings regarding the Constitutionality of the process, allowing access to abortion clinics makes sense for the reason that I outlined. Close them, and you do not just delay a constitutional right .. you preclude it altogether.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26370 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:39 am to
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You can practice social distancing there


There isn't a business out there that can't practice social distancing or some form of protective measures. Nothing should be outright closed.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39952 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:39 am to
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I get it, you are trying to be a funny man. You can buy your booze at the grocery stores. Liquor stores are not essential.




A lot of States don't allow anything but beer and wine at grocery

Now we can argue that these laws are BS
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62023 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:39 am to
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This essential versus non-essential labeling is complete bull shite. If you say that 10 or more people cannot gather, then that should apply to everything. Grocery stores and hardware stores are open and do even have to follow those guidelines, yet department stores are completely closed? What is the difference in shopping at Lowe’s compared to Macy’s? All this does is allow the government to pick winners and losers.


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