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Because Obama was the 1st Black POTUS,

Posted on 5/14/17 at 8:04 am
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 8:04 am
...(and in deference to their voting base) the Democrats are CLEARLY on the defensive, implying that Trump simply cannot undo ANY of the ideas that Obama hatched (how 'bout dem EOs!), thereby exposing him for the Alinsky operative he was, in addition to his many ineptitudes. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
Posted by BestBanker
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 8:05 am to
He's Caucasian. Check his birth certificate. Oh wait
Posted by a want
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 8:05 am to
huh?
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 8:06 am to
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huh?

You can't handle the truth. Don't play dumb.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 8:11 am to
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He's Caucasian. Check his birth certificate. Oh wait

That is EXACTLY why you never saw Obama's real birth certificate.

In the era Obama was born the child was always considered the same race as the mother. Even if Obama had not been born in Kenya. A Hawaiian birth certificate would have listed him as White.

Certainly not "African-American" like that fake bullshite he produced. Even if it had of listed him as Black in that era it would have said "colored".
Posted by tigercreole
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:42 am to
Stupid insecure racists. Now, you Want claim Obama is white. What a sad life you have. Pathetic. The reason America will never be great. POS.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:47 am to
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The reason America will never be great


Jenx
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:48 am to
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In the era Obama was born the child was always considered the same race as the mother. Even if Obama had not been born in Kenya. A Hawaiian birth certificate would have listed him as White.
I can't speak for Hawaii, but if it's like anywhere else in the US, a child's race (generally even now, but certainly then) almost always boils down to his most ethnic or minority status. A half white/half Native American would be listed as Native American. A half white/half Asian kid would be listed as Asian. A half white/half black kid would certainly have been listed as black most anywhere in this country in the early 1960s.

He wouldn't have been sitting next to you in school in Tennessee in the 1960s.

Did you just fall off a turnip truck? Jesus.
This post was edited on 5/14/17 at 10:11 am
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:51 am to
Never in America has any child with a black parent ever been considered white.
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:53 am to
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Never in America has any child with a black parent ever been considered white.
Not only did an old dude from Tennessee think he could float that shite, he had four other idiots upvote him. Again, people wonder why I throw so much shade around here sometimes. These guys can't be for real.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:58 am to
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A half white/half Native American would be listed as Native American. A half white/half Asian kid would be listed as Asian.
Guessing you weren't born near that time.

My father is half white. My mother is Cherokee. What am I listed on mine?

White. Your hyphenated Americans didn't exist till decades later.
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:07 am to
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Guessing you weren't born near that time. My father is half white. My mother is Cherokee. What am I listed on mine? White. Your hyphenated Americans didn't exist till decades later.
When were you born? Because I've known quite a few Native Americans who at least claim to have been listed as such at birth and who check that box on the census. And they mostly look as white as anyone. And as I hinted at, there obviously weren't universal conventions with a lot of this being handled state-by-state, but the claims in juggy's post are laughable. Mixed-race people practically default to the minority race as a rule. No one would have considered a kid with a black father anything but black (or "mulatto") anywhere in this country in the 1960s (or before or since). He wouldn't wouldn't be considered white if his mother were the crown princess of Sweden.

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Your hyphenated Americans didn't exist till decades later.


I guess the Irish, Italian, and German-Americans at the turn of the 20th century must have been transported back to that period in time from some notional period decades after you were born. Teddy Roosevelt disparaged the notion of hyphenated Americans, which had already taking hold, in 1915.
This post was edited on 5/14/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:11 am to
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A half white/half black kid would certainly have been listed as black most anywhere in this country in the early 1960s.

Look - I have no doubt whatsoever that Obama was born in Hawaii because there is not a single piece of evidence that points to any other conclusion. I'd have to believe a massively complex and prescient conspiracy to think otherwise.

But I do have doubts that the birth certificate Obama finally released contains some defects that can best be explained by deliberate forgery. For what reason, I have no idea. Perhaps the real parent? Perhaps some oblique reference to Islam? Perhaps the original birth certificate didn't really exist to begin with? But even if there was some trivial forgery, it doesn't effect his eligibility status as qualified to run for POTUS. Obama was unqualified for many other reasons, but none of them are constitutional - they were pragmatic/political.

Are you 100% convinced that the image of the birth certificate produced was an absolutely true representation of the original???
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:20 am to
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Are you 100% convinced that the image of the birth certificate produced was an absolutely true representation of the original???
I wouldn't be surprised if it weren't an exact replication, but I don't have any reason to believe there was anything intentionally misleading on it. And I guess I'm as convinced of its substantive authenticity as I am of anything else I can't independently verify. That wasn't really the point of my post, though. I can't believe someone SavageOrange's age could make the argument that a half-black baby would have been listed as or considered white anywhere in this country in 1961. I have to imagine he knows better than that. There are blacks who look one hell of a lot whiter than Obama who were never considered white (look at some black members of families in Louisiana like the Honores and Darensbourgs or someone like Harold Ford).
Posted by dbowe82
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:20 am to
Bill Clinton was actually the first black POTUS.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:22 am to
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Stupid insecure racists. Now, you Want claim Obama is white. What a sad life you have. Pathetic. The reason America will never be great. 

Sorry to disappoint you, you racist piece of shite. Obama is just as much White as he is Black.

However, I am perfectly willing to let the Black race to claim him. He can go down as another one of their failures.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:25 am to
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Guessing you weren't born near that time. 

My father is half white. My mother is Cherokee. What am I listed on mine? 

White. Your hyphenated Americans didn't exist till decades later.

You can't use facts on Navytiger. His own bitter racism will not allow him to see through anything other than Obama Black... Obama Black...he Black.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:25 am to
But you don't actually know. Do you?
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:26 am to
Well, this is crap.
Posted by Ted2010
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:30 am to
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Now, you Want claim Obama is white. 


So, Obama is a black skinned white man who was born in Kenya and is actually a secret gay Muslim who attended a Christian Church for 20 years that preached black nationalist liberation theology.

Occam just used his razor to commit suicide.
This post was edited on 5/14/17 at 10:31 am
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