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Assuming she is telling the truth

Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:34 pm
Posted by ThermoDynamicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1278 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:34 pm
Let's suppose everything she says is true. Do you still support the K nomination?

I personally think this whole thing is a joke, but it is a difficult question that I have posed to myself. I'd like to think I am a much different person than I was when I was 16 or 17 years old. Also, lets me clear that sexual assault is not rape. I feel like this whole charade is equating the two, which is nonsense. I believe I would still support his nomination.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89516 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:34 pm to
These low volume alters are getting a workout, today, baws.
Posted by ThermoDynamicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1278 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:36 pm to
Yea, lurkers are coming out of the woodwork on this historic day.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:36 pm to
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Let's suppose everything she says is true. Do you still support the K nomination?
Yes. A drunken grope by a 16yo does not change the fact that (half a century later) he is one of the leading Textualist- or Strict Constructionist-type judges out there.

I want this man on SCOTUS.
This post was edited on 9/27/18 at 1:04 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:36 pm to
There's a new assertion from 1998.

So not just teen lust.

Supposedly slammed a stranger up against a wall outside a bar in georgetown and pressed up against her.

He was attorney on ken Starr team by then.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43334 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:37 pm to
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There's a new assertion from 1998.



Of course there is.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:38 pm to
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There's a new assertion from 1998.


That was a 4chan troll
Posted by Wolf Messing
Gore-Kalevariya
Member since Feb 2018
621 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:38 pm to
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sexual assault is not rape.


true, but there are rape allegations that he been brought forward just not in this case.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14031 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:40 pm to
She has proved zero proof that Kav did this. I think she is believable watching the testimony, but she has zero proof. All Kav can do is say I didn't do what she is accusing me of.

Literally a she said-he said
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:40 pm to
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o, lets me clear that sexual assault is not rape.
uh, you don't understand modern legal language at all, do you? Sexual assault is the legal phrase for rape in almost every state and county in the country. There are some exceptions.

However, what Ford has described is in no way, shape, or form legal sexual assault.
Posted by ThermoDynamicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1278 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:40 pm to
I'm not considering any other allegations. This one is the most credible by a long shot and I'm not saying this one is.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40091 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:41 pm to
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Assuming she is telling the truth



Why would you assume that?

Given that she's an democrat academic party hack I would assume that she's lying.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6948 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:41 pm to
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Let's suppose everything she says is true. Do you still support the K nomination?
yes. nothing happened. She wasnt raped. She wasnt traumatically impacted. She couldnt even remember how she got home.

Posted by ThermoDynamicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1278 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:45 pm to
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uh, you don't understand modern legal language at all, do you? Sexual assault is the legal phrase for rape in almost every state and county in the country. There are some exceptions.


That is possible. I was under the impression that sexual assault was an action that would cause someone to reasonably anticipate rape or some other over sexual act and not the act itself. Similar to the differences between assault and battery.
This post was edited on 9/27/18 at 12:46 pm
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38122 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:49 pm to
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She couldnt even remember how she got home.


What am I missing here? Do you remember how you got home from every party in high school? Honestly curious how this is an argument.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:51 pm to
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quote:

Assuming she is telling the truth
Why would you assume that?
It is called a hypothetical question. It is a form of higher reasoning, with which you are doubtless not familiar.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 1:13 pm to
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She has proved zero proof that Kav did this. I think she is believable watching the testimony, but she has zero proof. All Kav can do is say I didn't do what she is accusing me of.
the first time W heard anything about the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas rumors was when Biden went to him on Sept 20, 1991.

she had never gone public with her claims, they were purely rumors that she didnt talk about on record.

W authorized an official FBI investigation almost immediately, based on nothing but rumors, they interviewed Hill just 3 days later, on Sept 23, and Thomas just two days after that.

all of that was done confidentially btw, the story didnt break in the media until October 6, and Thomas has been on the Court for 27 years now.

the FBI has known about Fords claims for 15 days now, since Sept. 12, and the first media reports began two days after that.

now there are at least 3 claims against Kavanaugh, including outright rape, yet the GOP has still not tasked the FBI with looking into any of it, and the trump base thinks thats perfectly fine, they could give a frick, ive seen people on this very board saying that if those girls were in fact drugged and raped, its their own fault.

some of you need to take a serious step back and look at what youve become.
This post was edited on 9/27/18 at 1:15 pm
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 1:25 pm to
> Why would you assume that? Given that she's an democrat academic party hack I would assume that she's lying.

one of his accusers has worked for the Department of Justice, the State Department, and the U.S. Mint, shes had multiple security clearances, for a long time, but Im sure youll say shes not credible too
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