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Assange indicted for unlawful obtaining and disclosing classified intel

Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:23 pm
Posted by musick
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:23 pm
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Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks leader, has been indicted on 17 new counts of violating the Espionage Act for his role in publishing classified military and diplomatic documents in 2010, the Justice Department announced on Thursday — a novel case that raises profound First Amendment issues.

The new charges were part of a superseding indictment obtained by the Trump administration that significantly expanded the legal case against Mr. Assange, who is already fighting extradition proceedings in London based on an earlier hacking-related countbrought by federal prosecutors in Northern Virginia.


This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39498 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:24 pm to
So can we indict all media who report leaked classified info please?
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72969 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:24 pm to
I don't take our "Justice" department very seriously. I say give him the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:25 pm to
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violating the Espionage Act

And Hillary gets off scot-free on the same charge
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36075 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:26 pm to
When truthtellers frighten your government, that government is evil.

Posted by sacrathetic
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:27 pm to
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Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:27 pm to
Assange is going to get butt fricked on Trump's watch
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:30 pm to
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novel case that raises profound First Amendment issues


Umm yeah.

WaPo and the NYTs and media organizations like them should be very concerned. A ruling aging Assange on these charges would hamper 1st amendment rights bigly but these media organizations are silent because Assange hurt Hillary.

All Assange did was publish classified info Manning illegally leaked. It is not against the law for journalists to publish classified info.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 5:15 pm to
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WaPo and the NYTs and media organizations like them should be very concerned. A ruling aging Assange on these charges would hamper 1st amendment rights bigly but these media organizations are silent because Assange hurt Hillary.



Dude, the obama-era DoJ did not bring charges. The trump admin is pursuing this. What is your point with regard to hillary?
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 5:16 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 5:18 pm to
This precedent will not be kind to Schiff or Comey...
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 5:19 pm to
Poor guy looks disheveled and distraught. Be a shame if some melancholy befell him and something awful happened.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/23/19 at 5:21 pm to
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All Assange did was publish classified info Manning illegally leaked.



That is not the charge. I am NOT saying the charges are correct. But, he is not charged with the publishing. He is accused of aiding and coercing Manning, etc.

That is why the "disclosing" is also chargeable.


If I steal the intel and give it to WaPo..they can publish without fear. If WaPo helps me, encourages me, etc and I get it to them, they CANNOT publish.

There IS a difference.


Again, I am not saying dude is guilty. Not at all. I am just saying that the charge of 'helping' makes the charge of 'disclosing' in play.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 5:24 pm to
GoVeRnMeNt oF tHe PeOpLe, By ThE pEoPlE, aNd FoR tHe PeOpLe

Government is not your friend.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12073 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 5:43 pm to
So what you’re saying is, Assange would need to defend himself regarding HOW exactly he came to be in possession of the leaks?

I like it alot. Discovery gonna be a blasty blast.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 5:44 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60054 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 5:50 pm to
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Assange would need to defend himself regarding HOW exactly he came to be in possession of the leaks?


Exactamundo
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36075 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 5:51 pm to
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Discovery gonna be a blasty blast.

No it won't. The Espionage Act effectively prohibits a Defendant from raising an affirmative defense at trial. That's why I always laugh when I hear morons say Snowden should come home and defend himself in trial. The Espionage Act prohibits that. Free country my arse.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16239 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:31 pm to
Then why the frick aren't rags like the nyt and wapo being indicted?
Posted by sugar71
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Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:37 pm to
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Dude, the obama-era DoJ did not bring charges. The trump admin is pursuing this. What is your point with regard to hillary?




Do you really believe they'll go after Pomoeo/ Trump here?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5592 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:37 pm to
Well...there is this:

"Such a charge under the Espionage Act has never been successfully prosecuted" (According to CNN...) which was an interesting statement given Schenck and other legal precedent...

The Espionage Act of 1917 establishes strict penalties for those who engage in spying to impede U.S. military efforts and/or give aid to foreign enemies. Behaviors prohibited by the Espionage Act of 1917 include:



Obtaining any information related to national defense with the intent for the information to be used to advantage a foreign nation or to injure the United States; or with the belief the information will be used in this way. Under 18 U.S. Code Section 794, the information may be obtained from virtually any source including but not limited to documents (obtained legally or illegally);

this is interesting...

Posted by Hickok
Htown
Member since Jan 2013
2870 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 6:45 pm to
So is this setting the precedent for the corrupt politicians that he obtained the emails from?
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