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CleverUserName
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As Congress gets close to coming back to do pretty much nothing but fear monger
I got to thinking... how can libs be so determined to pass red flag legislation but be completely against stop and frisk?

Stop and frisk is proven to work. It gets illegal guns off the street. And crime rates dropped where it was implemented.

But you hear liberals say it’s against the 4th amendment.. but their favorite weapon, the courts, say otherwise:

Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), was a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States in which the Court ruled that the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures is not violated when a police officer stops a suspect on the street and frisks him or her without probable cause to arrest, if the police officer has a reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime and has a reasonable belief that the person "may be armed and presently dangerous."

So since red flag laws are being heavily pushed libs..... why not stop and frisk? It gets illegal guns off the street. That’s the goal right? You are not being selective on who should get certain rights while others do not are you?


TurkeyBaconLeg
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re: As Congress gets close to coming back to do pretty much nothing but fear monger
The libs in Congress are being told what to do. These people are just puppets doing the deep state's bidding. That is why what they do makes no sense.



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ynlvr
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re: As Congress gets close to coming back to do pretty much nothing but fear monger
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Stop and frisk is proven to work.



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bamarep
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re: As Congress gets close to coming back to do pretty much nothing but fear monger
Duh.

Didn't you know stop and frisk was rassiss?


seawolf06
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re: As Congress gets close to coming back to do pretty much nothing but fear monger
Red flag laws should be unconstitutional as should stop and frisk. Don't use one to justify the other.


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Jimbeaux
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re: As Congress gets close to coming back to do pretty much nothing but fear monger
This is probably the correct answer.

When progressives hear “stop and frisk”, they think of a black guy democratic voter getting frisked.

When they hear “red flag”, they think of a white guy republican voter being denied gun rights.


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re: As Congress gets close to coming back to do pretty much nothing but fear monger
Because they all suck! Many of the GOP too! They don't give a damn about anything but how it lines their pocket or gets votes.

This congress is terrible.


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225bred
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re: As Congress gets close to coming back to do pretty much nothing but fear monger
Spot on


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wutangfinancial
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re: As Congress gets close to coming back to do pretty much nothing but fear monger
Lefties are obsessed with disparate outcomes. That is your answer. Who will this law disproportionately affect?


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volod
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re: As Congress gets close to coming back to do pretty much nothing but fear monger

Both are violations of the 4th Amendment. If your going to be an originalist then you have to be fair.

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.





CleverUserName
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re: As Congress gets close to coming back to do pretty much nothing but fear monger
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Both are violations of the 4th Amendment. If your going to be an originalist then you have to be fair.


I’m not arguing for it. I’m just trying to get the silent leftists to give a reason why one is a must in the name of public good... and the other is a travesty of justice. Let’s see if they can think.

I see one lefty downvote that’s either unable to come up with an original thought that hasn’t been downloaded to them and/or is just Intellectually unable to explain. Any others?
This post was edited on 9/11 at 9:54 am


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CleverUserName
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re: As Congress gets close to coming back to do pretty much nothing but fear monger
Uhhh... hello libs. Where are you?


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CleverUserName
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re: As Congress gets close to coming back to do pretty much nothing but fear monger
Nobody?! Libs?! Hello?!


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