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re: Are we expecting any outcome from the Putin phone call today?

Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:52 am to
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:52 am to
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It is a smidge deranged to base one man's legacy off another man's actions. Don't you think?

Do you think that Trump has no influence in these outcomes?

He certainly things he does and most of his supporters do as well
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:00 am to
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Do you think that Trump has no influence in these outcomes?


Influence doesn't equal 'control'.

Do I, a DJT supporter, hope he can help to smooth things over? Yes.

Do I feel his legacy would be less if he were unable to control the actions of other, grown, strong personality leaders? An emphatic 'No'.

My daughter and my Aunt have been having a row for about two years now... my aunt is 82 and I'd love to see that resolved before it is too late. I've tried to influence both of them to let it go and move on. They are both hard headed as all get out.

I can try, I can influence... I cannot compel.

Trump has more ability to compel than do I... but in the end, every person makes and is responsible for their own actions.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:34 am to
Agree with everything you're saying

But we all know that if the Russia/Ukraine war does come to an end soon that he will take credit for it. And if he plays a role in it he very well should take some credit.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:40 am to
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Powerman
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 4:31 pm to
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WASHINGTON/MOSCOW/KYIV, May 19 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday Russia and Ukraine will immediately start ceasefire negotiations in the three-year-old conflict, but he did not appear to secure major concessions from President Vladimir Putin during a two-hour phone call.
In a post on his Truth Social platform, Trump said he relayed the plan for talks to Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy as well as the leaders of the European Union, France, Italy, Germany and Finland in a group call following his session with Putin.


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