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re: Are we are headed fast towards the tribulations
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yeah, but the devil isnt allowed in heaven to talk to God and convince him to let him torture people.
But he is
Revelation 12:10
Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying,“Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 12:46 pm
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Do you believe God repented of making man?
Yes, I believe he was sad and regretted making man with how evil and corrupt man and it's seed had become.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:47 pm to Revelator
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But he does
Nah, its different people at different times giving different opinions.
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Although Satan was kicked out of heaven during his original judgment, he still has temporary access to it. In Job 1 and 2, Satan appeared before God in heaven with the other angels.
Satan was cast out of heaven. Hes not going up to heaven and forcing God to change his mind. This is mans interpretation of events.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:55 pm to cssamerican
There is no pre-tribulation rapture.
The pre-trib rapture wasn't taught by the church for over 1800 years.
Think of Noah's Ark/The Passover. God's people were present on the earth for these pictures of judgement. They were not taken out. The were sealed, just as we, who are in Christ Jesus, are sealed by the Holy Spirit.
The pre-trib rapture wasn't taught by the church for over 1800 years.
Think of Noah's Ark/The Passover. God's people were present on the earth for these pictures of judgement. They were not taken out. The were sealed, just as we, who are in Christ Jesus, are sealed by the Holy Spirit.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:59 pm to Snipe
*backs away slowly*
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:59 pm to reddy tiger
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*backs away slowly*
who did you vote for? Since you avoided the question in another thread.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 11/28/23 at 12:59 pm to Revelator
Sons of God is translated from Bene Elohim in Hebrew, which is repeatedly used of angels specifically throughout scripture
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:01 pm to MintBerry Crunch
You don't even know what you believe unless Papa tells you to.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Satan was cast out of heaven. Hes not going up to heaven and forcing God to change his mind.
Well the Bible says he’s before the throne of God a day and night accusing the brethren, so.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:07 pm to Leotiger725
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Sons of God is translated from Bene Elohim in Hebrew, which is repeatedly used of angels specifically throughout scripture
I’m not saying it isn’t. But there is also scripture where sons of God are referring to believers ( men)
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:10 pm to Revelator
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Well the Bible says he’s before the throne of God a day and night accusing the brethren, so.
Also says he was cast out. It also says that God cant face evil.
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“Your eyes are too pure to look on evil”
So something is off.
Job is written as a poem. Its a parable about a guy who had terrible things happen to him.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:13 pm to Revelator
I just want to give you, Snipe, and CSS kudos for your knowledge and patience.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Also says he was cast out. It also says that God cant face evil.
There is nothing that says since he was cast out as an angel that he can’t go back before God.
And as for God seeing evil, God sees everything, including all the evil deeds done by man.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:18 pm to Snipe
we could very well be in, or headed into, the great apostacy.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:41 pm to BigMob
Just one man’s opinion, but when I think of the rapture event(s), I don’t think of timing (pre, mid, post).
I think of the different types of harvests mentioned in the Bible and how they might apply to man:
1) First Fruits Harvest- the choice fruits. The blameless: the unborn, infants, toddlers, mentally disabled, and chosen 144,000.
2) Barley Harvest- Barley is easily separated from the chaff. The Bride of Christ. The overcomers that remained watchful and held on to God’s Word.
3) Wheat Harvest- Wheat is more difficult to separate. It must be threshed aggressively. The remaining Church that must be refined through trial and persecution.
4) Grape Harvest - Grapes must be crushed. This is wrath.
I think of the different types of harvests mentioned in the Bible and how they might apply to man:
1) First Fruits Harvest- the choice fruits. The blameless: the unborn, infants, toddlers, mentally disabled, and chosen 144,000.
2) Barley Harvest- Barley is easily separated from the chaff. The Bride of Christ. The overcomers that remained watchful and held on to God’s Word.
3) Wheat Harvest- Wheat is more difficult to separate. It must be threshed aggressively. The remaining Church that must be refined through trial and persecution.
4) Grape Harvest - Grapes must be crushed. This is wrath.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:41 pm to Revelator
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The demons will be able to do signs and wonders in the end times that deceive many. In fact, the Bible says the deception will be so great, even the Elect would have been deceived without the Holy Sprit’s protection.
That was a little tongue and cheek, I do believe this is happening now.
Demons are convincing people of some horrific things right now.
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:47 pm to Revelator
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There is nothing that says since he was cast out as an angel that he can’t go back before God.
And as for God seeing evil, God sees everything, including all the evil deeds done by man.
That sounds invented. You can get many different ideas just reading the bible that vary from that.
So God created evil, correct? And Satan is God of this world..
If you believe the bible is inerrant.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:47 pm to reddy tiger
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*backs away slowly*
Still right here. Standing in my faith and belief.
As I've said, I long ago lost my human desire to think I can know everything and rejects anything I cannot explain on worldly terms.
I have no desire to convince anyone that what I believe is right. Everyone comes to the truth in their own time.
ETA: One thing I've pleasantly surprised to see in these discussions is that their are very few who totally reject God. Most just disagree on (what in my limited biblically education I would call nuances) but I'm sure some feel like they are great schisms. I think to understand there is a God and that through his Grace and the belief in the sacrifice of Jesus we are saved is quite an accomplishment.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 11/28/23 at 1:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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That sounds invented. You can get many different ideas just reading the bible that vary from that. So God created evil, correct? And Satan is God of this world.. If you believe the bible is inerrant.
What is made up? Surely an all knowing God can see the evil deeds being done by us, right?
And as far as God creating beings that have the capacity to do evil? He created us right?
When you give a creature free will, he has the capacity to sin and do evil.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 11/28/23 at 2:30 pm to wackatimesthree
Oof. Spot on.
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