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re: Are there people happy with SCOTUS decisions but also won't vote for whoever wins GOP nom?

Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:18 pm to
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True, but helping Democrats win ensures Supreme Court wins like the past year will never happen and marxism gets codified. Being "NeverTrump" is equally as stupid as being "OnlyTrump", IMO.


Without Trump, we're looking at a 7-2 conservative majority.

Sorry, but I'm not willing to vote for a Democrat just because he spent some time as a wrestling character and figured out how to play a bunch of retards.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:22 pm to
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Doesn’t matter. Selfish dipshits that refuse to vote for the “other guy” don’t actually care about the health of this nation. They’re just too dedicated to their side. You see the same thing in college sports. People will defend their coach, players, program to the death no matter what.


This is the truth. The morons that say they will never vote for Trump, DeSantis of whoever are the reason we got this current Potatus Maximus! Oh an fricking soccer moms that had to be cool on FaceBook.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10502 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:22 pm to
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Without Trump, we're looking at a 7-2 conservative majority.


Explain your logic

If Biden beats Trump in 24, what is the pathway to a 7-2 majority? We would be more likely looking at a 4-5 minority with an aging milquetoast Robert's as one of the 4.

And the left's 5 is not like the rights 5. They would be lockstep oj every issue. No squishes on their side.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 2:24 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:24 pm to
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Explain your logic


Without Trump, we don't get Biden. Without Biden, we don't get Jackson.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10502 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:15 pm to
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Without Trump, we don't get Biden. Without Biden, we don't get Jackson.


So what does this have to do with not voting for him if he wins the primary in 24, vs Biden? If Trump is the nominee, and people don't vote for him because they are butthurt, they should not be bitching when the court gets 3 more Kentajis on the court and the 2nd Ammendment is considered obsolete.

Just admit you are going to throw a fit because your guy didn't win. Both sides of TDS equation are the different sides of the same coin.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:20 pm to
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So what does this have to do with not voting for him if he wins the primary in 24


Nothing. That was addressed in a different reply.

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If Trump is the nominee, and people don't vote for him because they are butthurt


That isn't why I won't vote for him, but I won't stop you from rationalizing it that way if it makes you feel better.

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Just admit you are going to throw a fit because your guy didn't win. 


I don't know who you think "my guy" is, but declining to vote for Trump isn't a new position for me. I've explained myself on this for years, and Trump has only proven me right all along.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10502 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:39 pm to
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I don't know who you think "my guy" is, but declining to vote for Trump isn't a new position for me. I've explained myself on this for years, and Trump has only proven me right all along.


So you believe Biden as president offers more value to "conservatives" (as you have described yourself) than Trump?

I'm just trying to follow your logic. If Biden being president another 4 years is more favorable, can you please explain why you believe that?
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
918 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:55 pm to
Yeah.

I despise affirmative action.

But I'm never going to vote for a Republican.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:58 pm to
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So you believe Biden as president offers more value to "conservatives" (as you have described yourself) than Trump?


It doesn't matter what I believe. We can look at the results.

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If Biden being president another 4 years is more favorable


It isn't.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10502 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:01 pm to
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I despise affirmative action.

But I'm never going to vote for a Republican.


You do fully realize it was the 6 Republican appointed Justices on the majority, and the 3 Democrat Justices on the dissent.

So you like the results Republicans can offer. But yet choose to vote Democrat because of your emotions?

Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10502 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:07 pm to
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It doesn't matter what I believe. We can look at the results.


I'm asking you a question, what results will Biden offer that are more favorable than if Trump won? If you can't explain, just admit you are being emotional about it, and don't care about results or outcomes?

Voting is a binary choice. If Trump wins the nomination, it's either Trump or Biden. There is no door#3. Same goes if DeSantis wins.

I would like Chip Roy myself. But I realize it's not happening. I wanted Ron Paul and that didn't happen. I have 2 choose the better option.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:12 pm to
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I'm asking you a question, what results will Biden offer that are more favorable than if Trump won?


Sigh.

I'm talking about who is in the White House. Trump's "results" don't mean shite when he loses.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10502 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:22 pm to
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Sigh.

I'm talking about who is in the White House. Trump's "results" don't mean shite when he loses.


What is your overall point?

Are you arguong that if Trump wins the nomination, he won't win the GE? If that's your argument, then fine, make that argument. But what does that have to with voting for him in the GE if he is the nominee? It's a binary choice at that point, Biden or Trump. Explain what other options there are and your rationale for them?

If I understand you right, you would not vote for him in the general because you feel he won't win the general? Is that accurate?
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 4:37 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:38 pm to
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What is your overall point?


Well, my overall point is that there are people who are happy with what SCOTUS had been doing who won't vote for Trump.

You took issue with that, and here we are.

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Are you arguong that if Trump wins the nomination, he won't win the GE? 


Correct, in response to what you've posted.

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It's a binary choice at that point, Biden or Trump.


No, it isn't.

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Explain what other options there are and your rationale for them?


Our options are numerous.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:39 pm to
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If I understand you right, you would not vote for him in the general because you feel he won't win the general? Is that accurate?


And no, this isn't correct. I don't think he should be the nominee because I don't think he'll win the general election. That has little or nothing to do with why I'll not vote for him in the primary or the general.
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:40 pm to
No problem with the decisions over here.

But if you polly-anna Repubs want to listen to pure hatred and get some idea of the political lay of the land, the real world, tune in to stations like we have here locally - WYLD and WBOK - and listen to who they're blaming for all of this.

And realize there are millions out there who listen to this every day and hang on every word.

But keep hoping against hope that Trump or any other Repub standard bearer is ever going to get enough of the black vote to make a difference.
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