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AP Covers Up Invention of Imaginary Pruitt Meeting. They will never stop

Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:57 pm
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 9:57 pm
Lawsuits need to be filed.

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A Breitbart News investigation has led to the correction by the Associated Press–which originally resisted–of the fake news it printed as deeper questions of responsibility, accountability, and journalistic ethics consume the AP heading into Fourth of July weekend.

This time, the Associated Press invented an imaginary meeting between EPA administrator Scott Pruitt and Dow Chemical CEO Andrew Liveris, and then alleged that some kind of impropriety happened as a result.



2nd time in 3 days that Breitbart has done the work and forced retraction from "REAL NEWS" sites.

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:06 pm to
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The Associated Press, relying on schedules provided by the Environmental Protection Agency, reported erroneously that EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt met with Dow Chemical CEO Andrew Liveris for about a half-hour at a Houston hotel. A spokeswoman for the EPA says the meeting listed on the schedule was canceled, though Pruitt and Liveris did have a “brief introduction in passing.”
So the EPA had the meeting listed, and didn't correct the record that it was "canceled" but then admits they
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She said Pruitt and Liveris did have a “brief introduction in passing” at the energy conference in Houston they were both attending.
. So instead of the formal meeting that was on the record, they had a "brief introduction in passing" which could be anything,

AP was right to correct it, acting like this was some egregious made up story is ridiculous.
Posted by diplip
the Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2011
897 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:22 pm to
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So the EPA had the meeting listed, and didn't correct the record that it was "canceled" but then admits they


so you are putting this on the EPA?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:46 pm to
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so you are putting this on the EPA?
No. I'm saying that the EPA had a meeting listed on the official record, so reporting on that meeting, is not making up an imaginary meeting. But what I do take an issue with is their coy remark that "they had a brief introduction." So basically the brief formal meeting didn't occur, but a brief informal meeting occurred, but it's some how passed off as not occurring because of their cleverly vague wording.

Maybe it was merely a few seconds, but maybe it wasn't. Either way, with the official record indicating a formal meeting scheduled, AND the disclosure of an informal meeting, then the story was not made up. A correction was necessary, but the Brietbart accusation is egregious in and of itself. Of course, that's what you get with a hack publication and a conflict of interest.

Edit: After realizing the EPA released the record 3 months after the meeting was scheduled, and failed to correct it despite an FOIA request, I put a lot of blame on them.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 11:10 pm
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:48 pm to
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Of course, that's what you get with a hack publication and a conflict of interest.













By the way.... How are those polls working for you?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:50 pm to
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So basically the brief formal meeting didn't occur, but a brief informal meeting occurred, but it's some how passed off as not occurring because of their cleverly vague wording.

Given that clearly, the AP didn't know the details of the meeting, wouldn't it be fair to say that
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and then alleged that some kind of impropriety happened as a result.
was a lie
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:50 pm to
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By the way.... How are those polls working for you?
Not bad. They were pretty good nationally, but had some state issues that seemed to be a result of correlated error. Hopefully it revealed a diagnosable problem to avoid those errors in the future.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65222 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:50 pm to
It's starting to look like more retractions than actual stories..,
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:59 pm to
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was a lie
They didn't allege impropriety. Besides the meeting issue, they listed a fact about the ruling:
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Records show the Trump administration’s top environmental official met briefly with the chief executive of Dow Chemical shortly before reversing his agency’s push to ban a widely-used pesticide after health studies showed it can harm children’s brains
Clearly one can infer impropriety, but listing facts that lead to one's inferencing (possibly incorrectly as it's leading toward the Post Hoc Fallacy) of impropriety is solely on the individual interpreting that allegation.

It's like the Seth Rich thing. The basic facts (worked for DNC, murdered, etc.) made no attempt to allege that it was a political assisination, yet people have inferred that it was. Whether that's correct or not, doesn't make the basic facts an allegation.

And as it pertains to the meeting confusion:
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Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt’s schedule showed he was slated to meet with Dow CEO Andrew Liveris on March 9
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EPA released a copy of Pruitt’s March meeting schedule earlier this month following several Freedom of Information Act requests.
So the EPA provided a record 3 months after the scheduled/canceled meeting occurred. Yet, it's the AP's fault that they failed to correct the record in those 3 months, especially after an FOIA request?
Posted by Hightide12
Member since Nov 2012
2730 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:09 pm to
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It's starting to look like more retractions than actual stories..,

This. AP is on a roll today retracting all their fake news.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:19 pm to
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They didn't allege impropriety


Yes they did...


Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:38 pm to
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Yes they did
Maybe it's not in the updated story, or maybe I missed it. Can you quote the allegation?
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 11:44 pm
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
4202 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 2:01 am to
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Of course, that's what you get with a hack publication and a conflict of interest.? 

You dickheads (like MButterfly) who post only a laughing emoji in response to a post are just showing everyone that you are too ignorant to even attempt to make any kind of an intelligent response.

Why don't you grow up or GTFO.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
65496 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 3:25 am to
AP can't fold soon enough.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61866 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:48 am to
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So instead of the formal meeting that was on the record, they had a "brief introduction in passing" which could be anything,

That is usually something along the lines of, "Hello, my name is John Smith!" Hi, "I'm Bob Jones!" "Nice to meet you!" "Nice to meet you!"

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AP was right to correct it, acting like this was some egregious made up story is ridiculous.


Well, if they insinuate something hinckey is going on, then no, it isn't ridiculous.

ETA
THIS is what makes it not ridiculous:

alleged that some kind of impropriety happened as a result.
This post was edited on 7/1/17 at 6:50 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52405 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:51 am to
When the Associated fricking Press is flat out making shite up that tells you how deep the fear is that Trump is actually going to truly change Washington DC.


That should scare the shite out of EVERY tax paying American regardless of political association.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61866 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:52 am to
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Not bad. They were pretty good nationally, but had some state issues that seemed to be a result of correlated error. Hopefully it revealed a diagnosable problem to avoid those errors in the future.




Yeah, but it's those state things that get people elected, isn't it? So, the polls got the part that does not good, and missed the part that actually matters.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61866 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:54 am to
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They didn't allege impropriety. Besides the meeting issue, they listed a fact about the ruling:

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Records show the Trump administration’s top environmental official met briefly with the chief executive of Dow Chemical shortly before reversing his agency’s push to ban a widely-used pesticide after health studies showed it can harm children’s brains


You don't think this insinuates impropriety? Had it been proven they had, in fact met, you guys would be calling for the man to be fired based on this!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:57 am to
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Clearly one can infer impropriety, but listing facts that lead to one's inferencing (possibly incorrectly as it's leading toward the Post Hoc Fallacy) of impropriety is solely on the individual interpreting that allegation
Dear Lord. The AP knew it was driving the perception

Just stop
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61866 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 7:02 am to
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Yes they did

Maybe it's not in the updated story, or maybe I missed it. Can you quote the allegation?


Doesn't have to. You already did.

Records show the Trump administration’s top environmental official met briefly with the chief executive of Dow Chemical shortly before reversing his agency’s push to ban a widely-used pesticide after health studies showed it can harm children’s brains

Now let me ask you this question. The agency making this decision would not have been reported if the AP had known the meeting never took place, would it? The only reason they mentioned the decision was reversed was because they reported a meeting which insinuates something underhanded was going on. To deny this, or to not understand this speaks volumes about your ability to be impartial and treat things fairly.
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