re: Anyone still want to argue whether illegals voted?

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It's based on a study done by some profs from old dominion and George Mason university.

Here is the abstract and a few graphs. LINK

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That article has been debunked by Stephen Ansolabehere, who was in charge of collecting the Cooperative Congressional Election Study (CCES) data; the data which was used by the authors of your article.

In his paper "The Perils of Cherry Picking Low Frequency Events in Large Sample Surveys", Ansolabehere said:

"This paper documents how low-level measurement error for survey questions generally agreed to be highly reliable can lead to large prediction errors in large sample surveys, such as the CCES."

"The example for this analysis is Richman, Chattha, and Earnest (2014), [your article] which presents a biased estimate of the rate at which non-citizens voted in recent elections. The results, we show, are completely accounted for by very low frequency measurement error; further, the likely percent of non-citizen voters in recent US elections is 0." ---- LINK

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Anybody that argues that illegals didn't vote is certifiably retarded.

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Anyone who thinks 3 million illegals voted, didn't have a brain to begin with.

Just quickly searched the SoS offices for half of those states.

1. They all stipulate that you must be a US citizen to vote. Explicitedly. It's typically the top criterion on the list.

2. I'm a Washington State Resident. Voter registration can be done at any DOL facility or through DOL, but it is not automatic. In fact, while my license remains valid, my voter registration can (and has in the past) lapsed due to a move about which I didn't inform the SoS. The two are not tied.

3. Most of those states weren't all that close. Why not play the illegal game in states where it would have a meaningful impact.

Look, Trump won. He's president according to our constitutionally dictated electoral process. He lost the popular vote. Get over it. Your gut feelings and a bunch of conjecture about some states whose policies you don't seem well acquainted with don't amount to proof.

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Cruiserhog

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You have absolutely ZERO room to call anyone or anything stupid. You're one of the biggest mentally deranged and rabid liars on here. You're truly sick minded. Your opinion is invalid just like your brain, you irredeemable loser.

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1. They all stipulate that you must be a US citizen to vote. Explicitedly. It's typically the top criterion on the list.

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And in Virginia and California, that's all the person getting the driver's license has to do. Stipulate that they're a citizen. No one checks to see if they are. You're assumed to be a citizen if you say you are and you're then registered to vote.

It's asinine. But that's what they wanted.

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Why don't you provide a link or proof that illegals didn't vote. You libtards are the queens of lies and deflection but YOU assclowns are the ones that believe your own lies and never back up your claims. Why? Because all you do is spread lies and propaganda. Anyone with a normal functioning, non rabid brain knows that illegals vote and voter fraud is real. However, it's a known fact that the msm colludes with the libtards to further push that socialist agenda. Frick all of you crooks.

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I didn't lie and I didn't deflect, and I didn't get frustrated and resort to calling people names. I just posted a artcle that said the article linked to prove that illegals voted --- was bullsh!t.

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Anyone who thinks 3 million illegals didn't vote is a typical liberal and has a mentally deranged brain to begin with.

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Why are you liberal freaks in so much denial that illegals and non registered voters really do vote and it's the democrats that condone this. You turds cry racism and voter suppression when conservatives bring up the matter but yet you turn a blind eye and then deflect and deny that it happens.

Why are you so worried about voter ID laws? It's the right thing to do. No voter ID? Not a registered voter or legal law abiding citizen? No problem. You get no vote AND your sorry arse gets deported back to your native land. Don't like it? Become a legal tax paying American AND get a voter ID if you want to be considered a voter.

You have something to hide? Are you a tomato farmer harboring illegals and unregistered voters?

The paradox is that people say "Show me the evidence," but the government refuses to cooperate in allowing access to the evidence.

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The refusal of federal agencies to obey the law compels local election officials to rely almost entirely on the "honor system" to keep non-citizens from the polls. As Maryland's state election administrator has complained, "There is no way of checking…. We have no access to any information about who is in the United States legally or otherwise."[31] Most discoveries of non-citizens on the registration rolls are therefore accidental.

Though the Department of Justice has no procedures in place for a systematic investigation of these types of criminal violations, in just a three year period, it prosecuted and convicted more than a dozen non-citizens who registered and voted in federal elections in Alaska, Florida, the District of Columbia, and Colorado. [32] Among them was an alien in southern Florida, Rafael Velasquez, who not only voted, but even ran for the state legislature.[33] Eight of the 19 September 11 hijackers were registered to vote in either Virginia or Florida-registrations that were probably obtained when they applied for driver's licenses.[34]

In 1994, Mario Aburto Martinez, a Mexican national and the assassin of Mexican presidential candidate Luis Donaldo Colosio, was found to have registered twice to vote in California.[35] A random sample of just 10 percent of the 3,000 Hispanics registered to vote in California's 39th Assembly District by an independent group "revealed phony addresses and large numbers of registrants who admitted they were not U.S. citizens."[36] This problem may be partially explained by the testimony of a Hispanic member of the Los Angeles Police Department who had been a volunteer for the California-based Southwest Voter Registration Education Project. When she reported to her supervisor that her fellow volunteers were not asking potential voters whether they were citizens, she was reprimanded "and told that she was not to ask that question…only whether the person wished to register to vote."[37]

Similarly, the Dornan-Sanchez investigation produced an affidavit from a non-citizen stating that the Sanchez campaign's field director, an elected member of the Anaheim Board of Education, told him that it "didn't matter" that he was not a U.S. citizen-he should register and vote anyway.[38]

In 2006, Paul Bettencourt, Voter Registrar for Harris County, Texas, testified before the U.S. Committee on House Administration that the extent of illegal voting by foreign citizens in Harris County was impossible to determine but "that it has and will continue to occur." Twenty-two percent of county residents, he explained, were born outside of the United States, and more than 500,000 were non-citizens. Bettencourt noted that he cancelled the registration of a Brazilian citizen in 1996 after she acknowledged on a jury summons that she was not a U.S. citizen. Despite that cancellation, however, "She then reapplied in 1997, again claiming to be a U.S. citizen, and was again given a voter card, which was again cancelled. Records show she was able to vote at least four times in general and primary elections."[39]

In 2005, Bettencourt's office turned up at least 35 cases in which foreign nationals applied for or received voter cards, and he pointed out that Harris County regularly had "elections decided by one, two, or just a handful of votes." In fact, a Norwegian citizen was discovered to have voted in a state legislative race in Harris County that was decided by only 33 votes.[40]

Nor is this problem unique to Harris County. Recent reports indicate that hundreds of illegal aliens registered to vote in Bexar County, Texas, and that at least 41 of them have voted, some several times, in a dozen local, state, and federal elections.[41]

In 2005, Arizona passed Proposition 200, which requires anyone registering to vote to provide "satisfactory evidence of United States citizenship," such as a driver's license, a birth certificate, a passport, naturalization documents, or any other documents accepted by the federal government to prove citizenship for employment purposes. The state issues a "Type F" driver's license to individuals who are legally present in the United States but are not citizens. Since Proposition 200 took effect, 2,177 non-citizens applying for such licenses have attempted to register to vote. [42] Another 30,000 have been denied registration because they could not produce evidence of citizenship.[43]

The constitutionality of Arizona's requirement is currently being litigated in federal court. The district court hearing the case refused to issue a preliminary injunction against enforcement of the law, and the Supreme Court vacated a preliminary injunction issued by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.[44] Trial is scheduled for July 2008.[45] The plaintiffs will have to convince the presiding judge that the very same proof of citizenship required by the federal government before an individual can work is somehow unlawful when imposed by a state before a person can vote.

Some non-citizen registrations can be detected through the jury process. The vast majority of state and federal courts draw their jury pools from voter registration lists, and the jury questionnaires used by court clerks ask potential jurors whether they are U.S. citizens. In most states, however, and throughout the federal court system, court clerks rarely notify local election officials that potential jurors have sworn under oath that they are not U.S. citizens. In jurisdictions that share that information, election officials routinely discover non-citizens on the voter rolls.

For example, the district attorney in Maricopa County, Arizona, testified that after receiving a list of potential jurors who admitted they were not citizens, he indicted 10 who had registered to vote. (All had sworn on their registration forms that they were U.S. citizens.) Four had actually voted in elections. The district attorney was investigating 149 other cases.[46]

The county recorder in Maricopa County had also received inquiries from aliens seeking verification, for their citizenship applications, that they had not registered or voted. Thirty-seven of those aliens had registered to vote, and 15 of them had actually voted. As the county's district attorney explained, these numbers come "from a relatively small universe of individuals-legal immigrants who seek to become citizens…. These numbers do not tell us how many illegal immigrants have registered and voted."[47]

Even these small numbers, though, could have been enough to sway an election. A 2004 Arizona primary election, explained the district attorney, was determined by just 13 votes. Clearly, non-citizens who illegally registered and voted in Maricopa County could have determined the outcome of the election.[48]

These numbers become more alarming when one considers that only a very small percentage of registered voters are called for jury duty in most jurisdictions. The California Secretary of State reported in 1998 that 2,000 to 3,000 of the individuals summoned for jury duty in Orange County each month claimed an exemption from jury service because they were not U.S. citizens, and 85 percent to 90 percent of those individuals were summoned from the voter registration list, rather than Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) records.[49]

While some of those individuals may have simply committed perjury to avoid jury service, this represents a significant number of potentially illegal voters: 20,400 to 30,600 non-citizens summoned from the voter registration list over a one-year period.

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When the sitting President of the US tells an illegal immigrant they won't be deported for voting, we have lost all concepts of a law abiding and civilized society. Sad, truly sad.

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When it is so easy to refute your claim why do you bother lying to begin with? Oh, that's right, this crowd will just lap it up.

Obama did NOT tell illegals to vote

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Illegals are registered to vote and they vote. That's not in question.

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Right. And they have been voting in large numbers since 2008 (at least).

If its goes on all the time, and it is illegal in every state, how come there have been no prosecutions of all these illegal voters?