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re: Antibodies ...why are they not getting any love?

Posted on 5/3/20 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 3:44 pm to
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As an asymptomatic person I would much rather have the antibody test instead of the Covid19 test.



Yes, because when you get a false positive with the Covid test you are branded and have to sit at home 2 weeks
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 3:45 pm to
You may already know it, but Quest Diagnostics has an antibody test they will mail to you. It’s a little over $100.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15176 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 4:07 pm to
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I’m assuming a normal doctors visit can do this?


Yes. My doctor just called Friday and said she had it available. There is the quick test or like 2-3 day. That one is more accurate. They can also add on and test the concentration I think to tell you howany antibodies and if it's basically enough to be "immune". Is my understanding
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38305 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 4:11 pm to
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Abbott test 99% sensitive and specific for wuhan coronavirus
Maybe Stanford will repeat their study using a decent test then. Plus employ some method other tha FB ads to attract participants.
Posted by bamacoullion
Fayette, Alabama
Member since Oct 2008
2697 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 4:43 pm to
It ain't the vaccine. The vaccine is how they will do their dirty work.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40226 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 5:03 pm to
How can one find out locations using this test?
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 5:12 pm to
Because antibodies means a cure and a cure means less control.
Its time to pull back the curtains.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 5:18 pm to
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You are clueless as to the recent Stanford antibody studies?


I know of the one that isn't very good, and the other bay-area study that was even worse, but you said there were some 'ground-breaking' ones. Which were those?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 5:28 pm to
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You are clueless as to the recent Stanford antibody studies?

And yet you post a giggling emoji? frick off.
I doubt he is clueless about the study. The giggling emoji is probably because that study recruited via Facebook ads and used inaccurate tests. The results are worthless.
Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
2583 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 5:33 pm to
The antibody tests aren't popular because they would likely show that way more people caught the virus and weren't at all affected by it at all. This would in turn decimate the mortality rate of C19 and that would go against Orange Man Bad and that we really shouldn't have destroyed the economy.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 5:40 pm to
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The antibody tests aren't popular because they would likely show that way more people caught the virus and weren't at all affected by it at all.
The inaccurate antibody tests aren't popular because they're inaccurate. Once accurate ones are available in significant numbers, I assure you they will be VERY "popular".
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 5:42 pm to
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Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38305 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 5:44 pm to
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Because antibodies means a cure and a cure means less control.
Its time to pull back the curtains.
You are a scientist? It’s been around a long time but would you lead us through steps to antibodies being a cure?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:28 pm to
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I doubt he is clueless about the study. The giggling emoji is probably because that study recruited via Facebook ads and used inaccurate tests. The results are worthless.

Now fully convinced that you are a Big Pharma shill.

Two respected Stanford MD/researchers designed and executed that study. And one is also professor of Statistics at Stanford. I'd bet the farm on the validity of their study before I'd bet ten cents on your medical/statistics acumen.

And as Birx pointed out, even at 99% accuracy antibody testing can not be used without risk to certify an individual's immunity. However and antibody test at 80 or 90 percent accuracy is perfectly acceptable to test larger samples (1000+ people)

An antibody testing result that shows that millions have the antibody makes Contact Tracing a joke - THAT is one main reason the control freaks want nothing to do with antibody testing.

The other is that it demonstrates that Herd Immunity is alive and well in the human race.

This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 6:37 pm
Posted by clhawkins19
Greenville, SC
Member since Jan 2020
579 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:30 pm to
I had this antibody testing done, for me and my family. We all were bad sick earlier on before this whole thing went mainstream. Just got back from Toronto and we were all coughing and had fevers. Diagnosed as an upper respiratory infection and bronchitis.

Turns out we had covid-19.... got the results Friday. My 1 year old knocked it out in a couple days, me and the fiancée it took about a week. I’m overweight but no other health issues.
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:32 pm to
The Stanford study sent out facebook requests to get their “random” sample. And the professor who did the study doesn’t know how to apply Bayes theorem.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 6:35 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:32 pm to
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I'd bet the farm on the validity of their study before I'd bet ten cents on your medical/statistics acumen.



According to him WI was going to be a death camp due to in person voting on April 7th.

Nothingburger.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:50 pm to
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The Stanford study sent out facebook requests to get their “random” sample. And the professor who did the study doesn’t know how to apply Bayes theorem.


Dr John Ioannidis is a Stanford MD. He is one of the leaders of the Stanford antibody studies. He is also a professor of statistics at Stanford. Gonna take a wild guess and say Ioannidis knows Bayes Rule inside and out, and up one side and down the other.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38305 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:26 pm to
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Dr John Ioannidis is a Stanford MD. He is one of the leaders of the Stanford antibody studies. He is also a professor of statistics at Stanford. Gonna take a wild guess and say Ioannidis knows Bayes Rule inside and out, and up one side and down the other.


So he can't be influenced by money like all of the big money shills you mentioned? It was a bullshite study. Give it up.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:39 pm to
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So he can't be influenced by money like all of the big money shills you mentioned? It was a bull shite study. Give it up.

Dream on, Slick. These studies are underway all over the world.
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