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Amnesty and voting rights for illegals should be an absolute non starter for repubs

Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:29 am
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19063 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:29 am
Forget all the other ancillary stuff, the wall, visa lottery, chain migration and so on. That shite is of no concern for the Dems. They have set the trap for repubs to cave on some sort of amnesty and when that happens it’s game over for repubs. It will basically be the same result as the Reagan amnesty deal and repubs will lose control of atleast 5 states permanently just like they lost control of California. None of the other things regarding border security will ever happen if repubs cave.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:31 am to
I agree but chain migration is a big issue for me. It has to be eliminated.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:32 am to
Democrats want to shut it down for illegals.

There is nothing moderate about amnesty and open borders.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:33 am to
Great point.

This is why blaming democrats for this is dumb. It's the republicans who should be stepping up.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19063 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:34 am to
quote:

I agree but chain migration is a big issue for me. It has to be eliminated


That’s my point. None of the stuff you care about will ever happen if repubs cave. You really think Dems are going to end chain migration if they can flip 5 states through amnesty?
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19063 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:42 am to
The other thing you have to worry about is Lindsey Gramnesty. He was on tv last night strongly stating he wanted dreamers here, and he wanted them to be part of this country. This short sighted dumbass is willing to sell out his party and the citizens of this country because he has a hard on for giving illegals amnesty.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12514 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:44 am to
I agree . Only way to give dreamers voting rights would be If Trump got everything he wants for immigration plus voter ID law and money to improve military.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:46 am to
Wait a god damn minute. These assholes actually want to give non-citizens the right to vote? frick that. That should be illegal AND unconstitutional.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26642 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:48 am to
It is for me.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27158 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:50 am to
quote:

Only way to give dreamers voting rights would be


DONT DO IT...

I don't give a damn if Dems cave on every single thing, there is no way in hell voting rights should be extended to this group...
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19063 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:51 am to
quote:

tjv305
I agree . Only way to give dreamers voting rights would be If Trump got everything he wants for immigration plus voter ID law and money to improve military


There can be no voting rights. Voting rights cements Dems in power permanently. Repubs can’t win the whitehouse or maintain control of either the house or the senate if you turn 4 or 5 states permanently blue through amnesty. California is the model. Repubs controlled that state for 40+ years until Reagan signed off on amnesty. Repubs haven’t won that state since George HW Bush was elected, and they will never win it again.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14497 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Wait a god damn minute. These assholes actually want to give non-citizens the right to vote? frick that. That should be illegal AND unconstitutional.


No they don't.

But if the dreamers got "amnesty" they could start the normal citizen process and eventually become voters.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19063 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 10:01 am to
quote:


No they don't.

But if the dreamers got "amnesty" they could start the normal citizen process and eventually become voters


bullshite. You really expect us to believe Dems have no desire to give voting rights to illegals? To paraphrase Peter from ghostbusters, Jimmy, you’re talking about the lives of millions and millions of unregistered voters.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12514 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

There can be no voting rights. Voting rights cements Dems in power permanently


A voter ID law would off set the dreamers voting . I could be wrong but I would expect that a lot of the dreamers would be in democrats states anyway . I don’t see democrats agreeing to a deal where dreamers can’t vote . That’s the only reason they are making this fight .
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:16 pm to
Texas and Florida will be lost forever
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99059 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:17 pm to
Like the illegals aren’t voting already in huge numbers.
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