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re: All real men should refuse military service

Posted on 1/20/18 at 11:31 pm to
Posted by TigersInParis
Member since Nov 2017
311 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

Even though I'm not a vet, I come from a long line of vets


Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16200 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 11:31 pm to
Obviously all real men should wear skinny jeans, have ironic mustaches and designer, big glasses, and enjoy watching their wives get fricked by other men.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 11:32 pm to
Do you want a draft? Because this is how you get a draft.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35476 posts
Posted on 1/20/18 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

Even though I'm not a vet, I come from a long line of vets.


Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 2:49 am to
So you are a coward and most likely the result of jody railing your mom while her husband was in Nam. Be proud.
Posted by demtigers73
Coastal Club
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 4:23 am to
quote:

Even though I'm not a vet




Shitbag!
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5745 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:40 am to
quote:

Nearly half of all service members are non-white.


bullshite! Get your facts straight, Pedro. This from statisticbrain.com You should be working for CNN.


Race Profile of Active Duty Force
Service
% White
% Minorities
% Black
% Other
Army
73.9 %
26.1 %
21.5 %
4.6 %
Navy
66.2 %
33.8 %
19.3 %
14.4 %
Marine Corps
83.7 %
16.3 %
11.1 %
5.2 %
Air Force
78.1 %
21.9 %
15.6 %
6.3 %
Coast Guard
82 %
18 %
6.1 %
11.9 %
Total
74.6 %
25.4 %
17.8 %
7.6 %
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:59 am to
I don't know if those numbers are accurate. Statistic Brain doesn't give you any indication of how those numbers are collected.

If I'm reading the Army's own report right, then there is a difference between what the Army reports and what is on the website you used. LINK

Here is a link from the above PDF, which is from the Army's homepage.


The number of minorities in the Army is upwards of 40%, according to the Army's own numbers, which is much different from the website you quoted. I'll try to find the rest of the demographic information in a second.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24640 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:05 am to
quote:


I will say I am honored to get 90 downvotes.


94 bitch



I read it yesterday and was like WTF? and moved on. I DV you today for pussying out and deleting your thread.
Posted by James1960
Member since Oct 2017
122 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:43 am to
But his father and grandfather were vererans.
Posted by TigersInParis
Member since Nov 2017
311 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:53 am to
quote:

I will say I am honored to get 90 downvotes. I think my personal record is 150 or so. Let's try and break that record.


You are so honored that you deleted your post even! Could you be anymore transparent, Mr. son of a vet!
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48319 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

Not all military is conservative politically.


Of all of the military people who post most frequently on this board, the ones that we'd consider "Conservative Republicans" are out-numbered by the others on that list, who are either professed Libertarians or express no affiliation with any political faction but seem to side mostly with Democrats.

That's how I see it. I don't mean to step on any toes.

My personal belief is that people IN the US military should strive to be as apolitical as they possibly can.
Posted by James1960
Member since Oct 2017
122 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:33 pm to
The members of the military are US citizens. They have a right to political beliefs just as any other citizen. They just can't espouse it while working, which is how it should be, when off duty they should have the rights of every other citizen.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48319 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

The members of the military are US citizens. They have a right to political beliefs just as any other citizen. They just can't espouse it while working, which is how it should be, when off duty they should have the rights of every other citizen.


Of course they should stay informed and vote, but, the tradition is to be as apolitical as possible.

What if you were a Commander with ardent Democrat/Leftist/Atheist political beliefs. If you were to eschew being "apolitical" and make your political beliefs known to all, how do you suppose your devout Roman Catholic soldiers would react to that? It could present a Leadership problem for that Commander. That's why the tradition is to be apolitical.

OK, now to address the OP: Each individual's choice to join or not is a personal and individual choice. Do they feel the calling to join? That's a question that only each individual can answer.

For each, as they look within themselves to answer the question, they should also ask about their personal motives for wanting to join. Are you motivated by Selfless Service -- the desire to serve selflessly and without any desire for personal glory or self-aggrandizement? Or are you joining because you want to be a "Bad-arse Killer" to be feared by all men and desired by all women? If your motive is more to serve and benefit yourself, then I'd say your motive is misguided. Those whose motives are Selfless Service are much more likely to be the ideal military member.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 1:19 pm
Posted by James1960
Member since Oct 2017
122 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:58 pm to
It's not tradition it is the law. Posting your beliefs on an anounymous political board isn't making your political beliefs known to all. In the military, at least from my experience, you are more likely to hear righties talking about their beliefs than the lefties.
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