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re: "AG Sessions is poised to usher in a rise in the number of imprisoned Americans"

Posted on 2/26/17 at 11:59 am to
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 11:59 am to
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Didn't Trump say that he believed it should be a state's rights issue?


He did.

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Seems as if this is more on Congress than Trump.


Naw, it's an issue of prosecutorial discretion.

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Change the law to where he can't prosecute and then most everyone will be happy I'd think.


Or he could just exercise prosecutorial discretion and not enforce bad law and save everybody time and money.

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Do you want Trump circumvented the laws on the books to implement personal choices by him.


It's actually exercising the law enforcement and prosecutorial power of discretion but yes I want him to do that.

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Pretty sure Obama received a helluva lot of flak for doing just that.


I didn't. He was well within his rights to ignore and not enforce the law as its fully within the President's scope of authority to do just that.

I didn't like it personally but I didn't complain about it and I just told people to vote accordingly next time.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:00 pm to
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I think it would be stupid to reverse any progress made on legal marijuana. Let states individually continue to make those decisions.



Sessions said that Obama's EO on tranny's in the bathroom was federal overreach and then he wants to crack down on legal weed states?

He's a big fat hypocrite.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19624 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:05 pm to
Inimai M. Chettiar is the Director of the Brennan Center’s Justice Program. The Justice Program’s priority initiative is to end mass incarceration, while keeping the country safe. It melds law, economics, and policy to produce empirical reports and innovative policy solutions. The program also conducts federal and state advocacy and strategic litigation.

And here's a statement from the "Justice Program" that Chettiar heads:

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Our system of justice fails to live up to the American ideals of equality, fairness, and justice. Dysfunction in our criminal and civil legal systems is of grave proportions. The U.S. currently incarcerates 2.3 million Americans—disproportionately people of color—and more than 25 percent of Americans have a criminal conviction. Many of these individuals are also saddled with massive fees with few options for reentering society.


Yep, just as I predicted before I even read the first bit about her, she believes that whites are racist and lock black people up for fun. Of course, she and other liberals always fail to acknowledge the obvious: there's more blacks in prison because blacks commit more crimes. Full Stop. White racism doesn't make blacks in Chicago wholesale murder each other every weekend.

If there is a way to make black communities less criminal, then I am all for it. Simply not locking them up is not going to solve anything, but will only make it worse by encouraging more criminal acts.
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:07 pm to
MAGA amirite folks?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55659 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:08 pm to
Oh yes!!! Session is the one committing the crimes.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:09 pm to
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And if Trump's admin starts infringing on states' rights


I thought states rights was a racist code?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:12 pm to
It's a fact people of color get harsher sentences. A fact. The criminal justice system is racist.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
20204 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:17 pm to
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If he has his way, everyone who smokes a single joint would spend 18 months in prison.



Holy hyberbole, Batman!
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20919 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:19 pm to
Good. Enforce the laws, don't like them change them.
Posted by Topher86
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2012
77 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:22 pm to
This is my feeling as well. It is not his job to make laws. He is only supposed to enforce laws that have already been made.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:27 pm to
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There's nothing to gain and everything to lose if they go after it.

High risk, no reward at all.




I lean towards your argument on this but what about the fsct that a crackdown recreational weed would hit almost exclusively blue states (Alaska and part of Maine are the only exceptions)?
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:29 pm to
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Holy hyberbole, Batman!



I'm actually not sure its hyperbole with Sessions, he's literally said that good people don't smoke weed.
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 12:30 pm
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20919 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:30 pm to
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This is my feeling as well. It is not his job to make laws. He is only supposed to enforce laws that have already been made.
Last time I checked it's in the oath he takes.

Barrack Hussein Obama didn't give a shite about the law. It was one of the things I despised most about him
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:32 pm to
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I lean towards your argument on this but what about the fsct that a crackdown recreational weed would hit almost exclusively blue states (Alaska and part of Maine are the only exceptions)?


Alaska AG already said it wouldn't affect Alaska. Probably any other state that legalized either.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
20204 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:33 pm to
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I'm actually not sure its hyperbole with Sessions,


Well, you're an idiot.....so there's that.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:34 pm to
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Holy hyberbole, Batman!


Sessions literally said good moral people don't smoke weed.
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
4202 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:43 pm to
Trump is maybe a little smarter than I thought.

A big increase in the prison population - then build a lot more prisons - using private money = jobs, jobs, jobs, and inches the growth rate up over the magic 3% threshold Trump campaigned on.

“Walah”. It's magic.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:47 pm to
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This is exactly the shite I didn't like about sessions


Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:48 pm to
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If he has his way, everyone who smokes a single joint would spend 18 months in prison.

This is not MAGA

You're fake news.


/TrumpApologists
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19624 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:50 pm to
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It's a fact people of color get harsher sentences. A fact. The criminal justice system is racist.

LINK



The evidence is not debatable that blacks commit far more violent crimes than whites. The FBI's own statistics show this clearly. LINK

In 2012, blacks committed 5,531 murders while whites committed 4,582 murders. This is staggering when you consider Blacks make up 13% of the population while Whites make up between 60-75% of the population (depending on how you define "white").

Between 1980 and 2008 (30 year period) blacks committed about 50% of ALL murders in the U.S. This means for 30 years that 13% of the population committed 50% of all murders. It's an amazing statistic. And it's true. The DOJ's own statistics prove it. LINK

Taking all of that into account, has it ever occurred to you that Police stop and frisk blacks more often because the stats show they are more likely to be involved in criminal activity? Has it ever occurred to you that Police patrol black neighborhoods more often because that's where most of the crime is happening?

We can argue that some crimes are over prosecuted (like non-violent drug offenses), but we can't argue that the only reason more blacks are in jail is because of racism. No, the FBI and SOJ statistics show clearly that they are involved in more crime. Period. It's not debatable.
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