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re: African Migrants at Texas Border tested for Ebola
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:02 am to BamaAtl
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:02 am to BamaAtl
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No risk.
The sheer amount of illegal immigration says there is risk...
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Terrible hospital.
Wait, but most every hospital is capable according to you... What happens when it hits a hospital that is "terrible"?
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They are so equipped and trained (even moreso now), but they had significant failings.
Bullshite… four facilities in this country can safely treat Ebola patients... FOUR... response and treatment are two entirely different things... fricking fraud...
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you're incapacitated and in an isolation room.
you willing to bet your life on that? again you are dismissing things that cannot be dismissed if you expect anyone to take you seriously... of course, your credibility here is below snail shite anyway...
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some mutation
It mutates every single time it breaks out, again someone that knows anything about Ebola or any other similar virus would know NOT to speak in absolutes...
fricking fraud, spouting talking points from 2014ish when your savior was not capable of making a decision to stop movement into this country...
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 11:24 am to BamaAtl
Amazing you continue to double down on stupid, even in areas where your man Frieden admitted he was wrong. The thing speaks for itself.
No nitwit.
As was explained to you dozens of times in the past, the fact Ebola is transmissible via aerosolized particles does not mystically turn it into an airborne virus.
Let me make it simple for you.
Clouds are airborne.
A football is not.
But when I throw a football it temporarily shares the clouds' quality of traveling through the air. Just as when one sneezes, aerosolized Ebola laden particles are transmitted, often invisibly, through the air up to 20 feet.
¿comprende?
Again I'm happy to continue this as long as you want. I have no patience for your BS about medicine or science.
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you're trying to claim that some mutation will make it airborne
No nitwit.
As was explained to you dozens of times in the past, the fact Ebola is transmissible via aerosolized particles does not mystically turn it into an airborne virus.
Let me make it simple for you.
Clouds are airborne.
A football is not.
But when I throw a football it temporarily shares the clouds' quality of traveling through the air. Just as when one sneezes, aerosolized Ebola laden particles are transmitted, often invisibly, through the air up to 20 feet.
¿comprende?
Again I'm happy to continue this as long as you want. I have no patience for your BS about medicine or science.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:28 pm to Joe Smo 1234
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who wants an outbreak of Ebola in their neighborhood or kid's school?
Yikes! The CDC better be on this like FAST. Ebola is bad....really bad. As in you catch the disease, you bleed from every orifice on your body.......and then you die a miserable painful death.
Personally I'm on it. Called both my U. S. Representative and U.S. Senator this morning and told them we need to deal with this emergency.....as in right NOW! Quit this dog and pony show with this bogus Russian Collusion/Obstruction fake news. Furthermore if these folks test positive for Ebola the President (and Congress) needs to shut down our borders....immediately.
I always feared something like this would happen.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:47 am to Dale51
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Now do "white nationalists"
Dude that's like at least a third of this message board
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:15 am to The Maj
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The sheer amount of illegal immigration says there is risk...
The sheer amount of immigration with no epidemics attributed to them directly refutes that.
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Wait, but most every hospital is capable according to you...
Technically, sure. That specific hospital had a series of failures.
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four facilities in this country can safely treat Ebola patients... FOUR... r
This is just not true. SCDUs are not the only locations capable of treating hemorrhagic fever, nor are they the only places trained to do it safely.
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you willing to bet your life on that?
I was in 2014, and I would again.
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It mutates every single time it breaks out
And never jumps mode of transmission - because that's just not what viruses do. Keep up, we've been over this already.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:17 am to BamaAtl
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The sheer amount of immigration with no epidemics attributed to them
Shows that we've been incredibly fortunate more than anything.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:21 am to NC_Tigah
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the fact Ebola is transmissible via aerosolized particles does not mystically turn it into an airborne virus.
It also makes it easier to contain and control than an airborne virus, limiting its ability to spread in a wealthy modern country.
Which is exactly why I've hammered you again and again on the fact that a widespread outbreak in this country in 2019 would be extremely unlikely if not impossible.
Based on our testing and others, ebola is only transmissible through droplets from mucus/saliva when the patient is so severely ill as to be unmistakable and isolated. Additionally, you would need to have those droplets (of an incredibly ill person already contained) land directly on an unexposed mucus membrane.
Just. Not. Likely.
I'm also happy to keep pointing out your failures in this area as long as it takes - apparently getting your arse kicked in 2014 only lasted for so long.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:24 am to GeorgePaton
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As in you catch the disease, you bleed from every orifice on your body.......and then you die a miserable painful death.
It's not fun, but hemorrhage from every orifice wasn't a characteristic of the last outbreak, and per reports isn't one of this one.
It's more like severe vomiting and diarrhea (more severe than you can even imagine, liters upon liters upon liters a day) with perhaps some blood, depending on the person.
And you definitely won't have a good time - the combination of fluid loss and fever really does bring on an altered mental status.
As far as death - no patients who contracted the disease and were treated in the US died, save for one who a poor hospital misdiagnosed and did not begin treatment until it was too late.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:25 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Shows that we've been incredibly fortunate more than anything.
Shows that they're nowhere near as great a risk as anti-vaxxers, in terms epidemic potential.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:53 am to BamaAtl
quote:So you are going there again?
The sheer amount of immigration with no epidemics attributed to them directly refutes that.
It is said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. The definition of stupidity is knowing unexpected results have occurred, while nonetheless claiming they never could.
Migration dynamics already resulted in a stateside outbreak and extensive costs.
quote:Technically?
Wait, but most every hospital is capable according to you...
Technically, sure.
Well ... I guess technically you're capable of carrying an argument here.
The fact you haven't though should give one pause before thinking "today's the day."
Of note, you've never stepped foot in Dallas Presbyterian. You have no clue as to what their facility infection rates are, what their ICU facilities are like, etc. In fact each is as good or better than a majority of hospitals in the country. Freiden's "Any Hospital" proclamation was stupid. You were told so at the time, before such idiocy almost killed two RNs. Afterwards, Freiden was at least bright enough to change policy. You apparently aren't quite that smart.
Revisit the definitions of "insanity" and "stupidity" above.
quote:Completely totally irrelevant.
And never jumps mode of transmission -
Greater extracorporeal/environmental survivability, enhanced hemorrhagic proclivity, increased predilection to aerosolization would have ziltch to do with altered mode of transmission, yet would increase contagiousness, as would increased symptomatic latency.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:55 am to BamaAtl
quote:Want to enlighten the group on risks of viral epidemics in adequately vaccinated populations?
Shows that they're nowhere near as great a risk as anti-vaxxers, in terms epidemic potential.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:57 am to BamaAtl
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Shows that they're nowhere near as great a risk as anti-vaxxers, in terms epidemic potential.
Shows that we've been incredibly fortunate so far on both fronts and need to take measures to reduce the risk on both fronts.
Glad you agree.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:58 am to BamaAtl
quote:You are an imbecile!
one who a poor hospital misdiagnosed and did not begin treatment until it was too late.
Your reference is to a patient who lied about his exposure history.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:00 am to Kentucker
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Should we invade Mexico?
Just 5 miles of Mexicos northern border. And setup a DMZ like between the Koreas.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 4:05 pm to alphaandomega
quote:Amazing we have Congolese migrants at the Mexican border, but Proguffoons claim there is no risk whatsoever of militant Islamists using that access route to enter the US.
Just 5 miles of Mexicos northern border.
As for claims of no epidemiologic risk, this tidbit speaks for itself . . .
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“Between Texas, California, and New York, we have 50 percent of the cases of TB and the border has the most. Brownsville has the biggest number of cases."
Posted on 4/20/19 at 6:42 pm to Joe Smo 1234
It’s racist to test for ebola
Posted on 4/20/19 at 7:49 pm to Kracka
You must be a non-breeder! Will you vote for Butt mayor?
Posted on 4/21/19 at 5:19 am to BamaAtl
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Acute Flaccid Myelitis, likely caused by EV-D68, has no relation to immigration. It's a disease endemic to the US.
Looks like you need a lot of fact-checking.
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West Nile virus (WNV) continues to be an important cause of AFP in Europe and North America
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Although Guillain-Barré Syndrome remains the most common cause of AFP worldwide, our case highlights the threat of polio importation and the need to consider nonendemic pathogens such as WNV. Clinicians need to consider a broad differential when investigating patients with AFP (see Table ?Table1)1) and take into account that there will be a shift in the epidemiology of AFP in previously polio-endemic countries, as demonstrated by the diagnosis of WNV in our case.
LINK
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 5:24 am
Posted on 4/21/19 at 7:30 am to BamaAtl
How many refugees will u be inviting into your home?
U are a coward and a hypocrite....
U are a coward and a hypocrite....
Posted on 4/21/19 at 8:04 am to NC_Tigah
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So you are going there again?
I like going back to examples that explicitly prove my point, especially when they don't have any counterfactuals. It's fun.
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Technically?
Technically. Just like technically every ICU in the country has an airborne isolation room that can handle a case of active TB - but I wouldn't want to try my luck in some bumfrick shitty hospital if I had a choice. The minimum standards for an ICU in the US are capable of handling a patient with EVD, so long as the staff follows proper procedures at all times.
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you've never stepped foot in Dallas Presbyterian.
But I've met their ID faculty, and we've talked about their leadership. I saw the scenario where they examined a febrile patient who had recently traveled from West Africa in the midst of a hemorrhagic fever epidemic...and sent him home.
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Completely totally irrelevant.
Completely and totally relevant, when you're trying to make up a fantasy scenario that won't happen.
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