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re: African Migrants at Texas Border tested for Ebola

Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:39 pm to
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why don't I feel safer?


Because being scared of everything is a choice you've made to compensate for your inadequacies.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85400 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:41 pm to
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Because being scared of everything is a choice you've made to compensate for your inadequacies.
Another empty troll, isn't about time you get back to urine samples?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154818 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:42 pm to
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get back to urine samples?


I bet he taste tests
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:42 pm to
I can have more fun pointing out how stupid that guy is while I'm waiting for this fellow to show up with his research proposal.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85400 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:45 pm to
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I can have more fun pointing out how stupid that guy is while I'm waiting for this fellow to show up with his research proposal.
I remember a real Doctor on here gutting you like a fish a few months ago.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:47 pm to
Not on ID they didn't.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85400 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:51 pm to
You were destroyed and ghosted like a bitch.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37092 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:52 pm to
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I spent 2 summers ago near Vail,Colo. I met an illegal Mexican carpenter who was working on a project and was making $20/hr. That doesn't sound like the kind of work that Americans won't do. lol..He told me that he had paid a coyote $3500 to get him across the border back then. And the coyotes are forcing women to hide drugs in their private place in lieu of some of the cost of passage.

When was the last time you hired a carpenter?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Jbird


You're going to have to speak a little louder, I can't hear you over kicking the guy's arse in this thread.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85400 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:54 pm to
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You're going to have to speak a little louder, I can't hear you over kicking the guy's arse in this thread.
I figured you were a soccer bitch.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:59 pm to
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soccer


Everyone in Atlanta is, or they're an idiot.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135760 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 2:26 pm to
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If EVD became more lethal/virulent it would decrease its ability to cause a widespread epidemic.
Well that's quite an odd statement, isn't it?

In large part, epidemiological characteristics are a function of contagiousness following infection but before symptoms appear. If the period asymptomatic contagiousness was unaltered or increased, the pathogen's predilection for spread would be unchanged or increased concomitantly.

For example, if the evolved virus demonstrated pulmonary involvement imitating a URI c/w sneezing/coughing, yet with only lowgrade initial symptoms, it could dramatically increase danger of spread.

You know that.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74499 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 2:52 pm to
Clutch those pearls in anger.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 3:01 pm to
Given the nature of transmission of EVD, you rarely if ever see contagion in an asymptomatic individual.

You just don't get a lot of non-sexual bodily fluid transfer among healthy individuals. Most if not all spread of infection with EVD comes after symptoms appear or post-death (e.g. a custom of kissing deceased family members on the lips may have led to increased spread in the 2014 Western African epidemic). Quicker mortality would give less time for spread, decreasing likelihood of large-scale epidemic in a population.

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if the evolved virus demonstrated pulmonary involvement imitating a URI c/w sneezing/coughing, yet with only lowgrade initial symptoms, it could dramatically increase danger of spread.


Not a likely mutation, as EVD is not airborne and the droplets become noninfectious incredibly quickly - especially in not severely ill individuals. We just don't see viruses jump transmission routes that frequently.

But you know that.
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 3:03 pm
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26157 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 3:54 pm to
Let's send a few of them to stay with you then, snicker. The next batch they catch you get to live with four or five.

You'll say different here, but you'll be lying if the idea of Ebola transmission or something else doesn't enter your mind.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135760 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 6:26 pm to
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Given the nature of transmission of EVD
Transmission of the current version of EVD is not what we are discussing, is it? You were addressing contagiousness of a future mutant strain. Right?

Wait . . .
. . . . . . . . Let me check
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yep . . . . that was what you were discussing.
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Most if not all spread of infection with EVD comes after symptoms appear or post-death
Perhaps you should reread the post you are responding to.

You addressed another poster with a bullshite response to possible viral evolution.

Now you are addressing my response with a bullshite retreat from a future strain back to current viral characteristics? You thought that would fly? Really?

I'm happy to talk about either speculative future strains, the present patogen, or both. Just pick one. But don't try to meander to-and-fro. That might work with anti-science AGW audiences.

It won't work here.
Sorry.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135760 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 6:44 pm to
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as EVD is not airborne
First off, EVD is not a particle, it is an expression of a host's infection. EVD is a disease, not a virus.

Secondly, if EV is present in respiratory secretions and the host sneezes, thousands perhaps millions of viral particles are sent airborne for up to 20 ft. Considering Ebola infection (EVD) requires as few as 10 viri, RT-to-RT transmission without direct person to person contact is an obvious possibility.

Third, you've repeatedly attempted to confuse laypeople here with "airborne virus" vs "nonairborne virus" designations. Those designations notwithstanding, Ebola can be passed through the air between humans within a 15-20 ft radius.

Again, take your BS elsewhere. It won't pass muster here.

This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 6:48 pm
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26157 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 6:55 pm to
She got her posterior smeared all over my post string. Methinks I might have to visit the archives. You asked for this Madame Curie-Atl.
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 6:56 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 7:44 pm to
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Let's send a few of them to stay with you then


We did that in 2014. You're welcome.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41538 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 7:45 pm to
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Downvote for no link and no confirmation if they have ebola or not.


Sounds like bullshite. If they had Ebola they would dead a.f. by now
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