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re: Accusation that PB is an "echo chamber"

Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by Bayoubred
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2011
4146 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:11 pm to
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Prove that dissenting voices are silenced

Otherwise, you can stop making this stupid statement. We hear your emotional screeching. We just don't agree and we have rational reasons



ISWYDT
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39520 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:20 pm to
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It's become less of an echo chamber recently which is good


Agreed

Evidence: I haven’t been banned or warned in a while
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:23 pm to
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So is social media as a whole not an echo chamber?
Are dissenting voices allowed?

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This is an exceptionally low IQ thread
Just responding to yet another myth that continually gets wrongly perpetuated

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not knowing how polls work
Oh I know how they work and I responded to your inane point

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what echo chambers are
Prove that there are no dissenting voices on PB
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:24 pm to
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I could name 100 if I were so inclined.


Yet you've declined to name just five...

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But the point is that nobody can name 5 Lefties that have earned any respect for their ability to argue their point of view in the arena of ideas.


I wonder if the extreme bias of this place affects that in any way.
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:25 pm to
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ISWYDT
I was referring to the statement about PB not being an echo chamber, not that dissenting voices should be silenced. You can screech all you want but, people not mindlessly giving in does not mean PB is an echo chamber
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59312 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:25 pm to
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The government shouldn’t get involved in decisions between parents and kids that don’t involve criminal behavior.


Is child abuse criminal behavior?
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:26 pm to
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the extreme bias of this place
Yeah, it's bias. Not facts or data or rationality.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:28 pm to
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It was never an echo chamber.


TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
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Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39520 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:31 pm to
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it's bias
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:32 pm to
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Yeah, it's bias. Not facts or data or rationality.


Are you claiming bias doesn't exist here?

It'd be fun watching you support such an assertion.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86152 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:49 pm to
I believe it’s self evident. There are a multitude of excellent Conservative posters who bring facts and data and take on all comers and who can persuade people with the validity of their arguments.

I would be remiss not to mention that you ceded my point by dismissing my argument without valid rebuttal and reflexively pointing in the opposite direction. It’s the very typical deflection that Leftist/ Progressives always do. I think you’d make a much more persuasive argument by telling us who these great Leftist posters are that win rational arguments in the arena of ideas. In my experience, they are almost exclusively shite- stirrers and mindless ideologues.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 10:25 pm to
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I could name 100 if I were so inclined.


My assertion is that you're full of shite. I don't think you could name five, and certainly not 100.

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I think you’d make a much more persuasive argument by telling us who these great Leftist posters are that win rational arguments in the arena of ideas.


I'd only need to do that if it was a point I'd made.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86152 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 10:35 pm to
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My assertion is that you're full of shite.


That’s kind of what I’m talking about . Emotional outbursts and argument shifting. That’s all you guys ever have. The totality of Leftist argument is bad faith shite like that. It’s why nobody takes you guys seriously or respects the substance of your arguments.

I do appreciate you ceding the point that there isn’t really a single quality Leftist/ Democrat/ Progressive poster on the PT. Certainly not 5.

Tomorrow, if I have time, I’ll do a thread highlighting the multitude of excellent conservative posters that wipe the floor with the sad sacks that show up here with indefensible talking points that can’t withstand simple honest scrutiny.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 10:43 pm to
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That’s all you guys ever have.


Yawn.

Despite your incessant whining, you resort to the same garbage you've been denouncing in the thread.

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Tomorrow, if I have time, I’ll do a thread highlighting the multitude of excellent conservative posters that wipe the floor with the sad sacks that show up here with indefensible talking points that can’t withstand simple honest scrutiny.


OK.

Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 11:06 pm to
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GeauxTigerTM
So you can prove dissenting voices have never been allowed on PB?

It's amazing the kind of responses people post when they have nothing of substance to offer
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 11:10 pm to
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Are you claiming bias doesn't exist here?
You insinuated that the entire PB is biased towards a political slant. That is demonstrably false. People of all political persuasions are allowed to post. In that sense, no, there is no overarching, systemic bias. Is there a majority? Sure. But that is not a systemic bias against other opinions. Therefore, PB is not an echo chamber.

It's amazing people are arguing this facile point.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 11:13 pm to
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You insinuated that the entire PB is biased towards a political slant.


I didn't insinuate anything. I directly stated it.

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That is demonstrably false.


I suppose I'll keep waiting.

Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27188 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:00 am to
Look, I’m pretty sure that align politically with 90% of the folks on this board.

If you don’t believe that we’re overwhelmingly conservative here, do a poll. Ask a few questions that collectively can be up or downvoted as an answer.

You’ll find there’s not an ounce of political difference in the vast majority of posters here.
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:29 am to
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I didn't insinuate anything. I directly stated it.
Ok. Prove that dissenting voices are not allowed on the PB.

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I suppose I'll keep waiting
You want me to quote someone who is not a conservative who has made a post on the PB? I know you can find that on your own but let me know if you really actually need someone to cite that for you to prove the PB is not an echo chamber. We can start with HailHailtoMichigan, cwill, Celtic, texridder, Hank, etc.

This is just another one of those threads that proves the lengths that people will go to, the unbelievable levels of obfuscation they will indulge in, to avoid admitting they are wrong. It is a demonstrable fact that the PB is not an echo chamber.

Do you want me to cite the Oxford dictionary definition for echo chamber to help you?
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:34 am to
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If you don’t believe that we’re overwhelmingly conservative here, do a poll
That's not what an echo chamber is. A majority does not constitute an echo chamber. Dissenting voices are allowed. You say 90% but do you believe that's because the mods are preventing any diversity? If so, let's see the proof. Even if they're only allowing 10% diversity, that's still not an echo chamber.

Not only are dissenting voices allowed, but this board acts like an aggregator meaning information from various political dispositions are frequently engaged here. Even if no dissenting voices were allowed, that fact alone makes PB not an echo chamber.
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