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re: Accusation that PB is an "echo chamber"
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:11 pm to Kafka
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:11 pm to Kafka
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Prove that dissenting voices are silenced
Otherwise, you can stop making this stupid statement. We hear your emotional screeching. We just don't agree and we have rational reasons
ISWYDT
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:20 pm to Powerman
quote:
It's become less of an echo chamber recently which is good
Agreed
Evidence: I haven’t been banned or warned in a while
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:23 pm to RemouladeSawce
quote:Are dissenting voices allowed?
So is social media as a whole not an echo chamber?
quote:Just responding to yet another myth that continually gets wrongly perpetuated
This is an exceptionally low IQ thread
quote:Oh I know how they work and I responded to your inane point
not knowing how polls work
quote:Prove that there are no dissenting voices on PB
what echo chambers are
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:24 pm to Lsupimp
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I could name 100 if I were so inclined.
Yet you've declined to name just five...
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But the point is that nobody can name 5 Lefties that have earned any respect for their ability to argue their point of view in the arena of ideas.
I wonder if the extreme bias of this place affects that in any way.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:25 pm to Bayoubred
quote:I was referring to the statement about PB not being an echo chamber, not that dissenting voices should be silenced. You can screech all you want but, people not mindlessly giving in does not mean PB is an echo chamber
ISWYDT
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:25 pm to alajones
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The government shouldn’t get involved in decisions between parents and kids that don’t involve criminal behavior.
Is child abuse criminal behavior?
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:26 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
the extreme bias of this place
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:28 pm to TheQuestion
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It was never an echo chamber.
TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
111 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:32 pm to TheQuestion
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Yeah, it's bias. Not facts or data or rationality.
Are you claiming bias doesn't exist here?
It'd be fun watching you support such an assertion.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:49 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I believe it’s self evident. There are a multitude of excellent Conservative posters who bring facts and data and take on all comers and who can persuade people with the validity of their arguments.
I would be remiss not to mention that you ceded my point by dismissing my argument without valid rebuttal and reflexively pointing in the opposite direction. It’s the very typical deflection that Leftist/ Progressives always do. I think you’d make a much more persuasive argument by telling us who these great Leftist posters are that win rational arguments in the arena of ideas. In my experience, they are almost exclusively shite- stirrers and mindless ideologues.
I would be remiss not to mention that you ceded my point by dismissing my argument without valid rebuttal and reflexively pointing in the opposite direction. It’s the very typical deflection that Leftist/ Progressives always do. I think you’d make a much more persuasive argument by telling us who these great Leftist posters are that win rational arguments in the arena of ideas. In my experience, they are almost exclusively shite- stirrers and mindless ideologues.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 10:25 pm to Lsupimp
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I could name 100 if I were so inclined.
My assertion is that you're full of shite. I don't think you could name five, and certainly not 100.
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I think you’d make a much more persuasive argument by telling us who these great Leftist posters are that win rational arguments in the arena of ideas.
I'd only need to do that if it was a point I'd made.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 10:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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My assertion is that you're full of shite.
That’s kind of what I’m talking about . Emotional outbursts and argument shifting. That’s all you guys ever have. The totality of Leftist argument is bad faith shite like that. It’s why nobody takes you guys seriously or respects the substance of your arguments.
I do appreciate you ceding the point that there isn’t really a single quality Leftist/ Democrat/ Progressive poster on the PT. Certainly not 5.
Tomorrow, if I have time, I’ll do a thread highlighting the multitude of excellent conservative posters that wipe the floor with the sad sacks that show up here with indefensible talking points that can’t withstand simple honest scrutiny.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 10:43 pm to Lsupimp
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That’s all you guys ever have.
Yawn.
Despite your incessant whining, you resort to the same garbage you've been denouncing in the thread.
quote:
Tomorrow, if I have time, I’ll do a thread highlighting the multitude of excellent conservative posters that wipe the floor with the sad sacks that show up here with indefensible talking points that can’t withstand simple honest scrutiny.
OK.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 11:06 pm to GeauxTigerTM
quote:So you can prove dissenting voices have never been allowed on PB?
GeauxTigerTM
It's amazing the kind of responses people post when they have nothing of substance to offer
Posted on 9/5/23 at 11:10 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:You insinuated that the entire PB is biased towards a political slant. That is demonstrably false. People of all political persuasions are allowed to post. In that sense, no, there is no overarching, systemic bias. Is there a majority? Sure. But that is not a systemic bias against other opinions. Therefore, PB is not an echo chamber.
Are you claiming bias doesn't exist here?
It's amazing people are arguing this facile point.
Posted on 9/5/23 at 11:13 pm to TheQuestion
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You insinuated that the entire PB is biased towards a political slant.
I didn't insinuate anything. I directly stated it.
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That is demonstrably false.
I suppose I'll keep waiting.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:00 am to TheQuestion
Look, I’m pretty sure that align politically with 90% of the folks on this board.
If you don’t believe that we’re overwhelmingly conservative here, do a poll. Ask a few questions that collectively can be up or downvoted as an answer.
You’ll find there’s not an ounce of political difference in the vast majority of posters here.
If you don’t believe that we’re overwhelmingly conservative here, do a poll. Ask a few questions that collectively can be up or downvoted as an answer.
You’ll find there’s not an ounce of political difference in the vast majority of posters here.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:29 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Ok. Prove that dissenting voices are not allowed on the PB.
I didn't insinuate anything. I directly stated it.
quote:You want me to quote someone who is not a conservative who has made a post on the PB? I know you can find that on your own but let me know if you really actually need someone to cite that for you to prove the PB is not an echo chamber. We can start with HailHailtoMichigan, cwill, Celtic, texridder, Hank, etc.
I suppose I'll keep waiting
This is just another one of those threads that proves the lengths that people will go to, the unbelievable levels of obfuscation they will indulge in, to avoid admitting they are wrong. It is a demonstrable fact that the PB is not an echo chamber.
Do you want me to cite the Oxford dictionary definition for echo chamber to help you?
Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:34 am to geauxbrown
quote:That's not what an echo chamber is. A majority does not constitute an echo chamber. Dissenting voices are allowed. You say 90% but do you believe that's because the mods are preventing any diversity? If so, let's see the proof. Even if they're only allowing 10% diversity, that's still not an echo chamber.
If you don’t believe that we’re overwhelmingly conservative here, do a poll
Not only are dissenting voices allowed, but this board acts like an aggregator meaning information from various political dispositions are frequently engaged here. Even if no dissenting voices were allowed, that fact alone makes PB not an echo chamber.
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