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re: Accusation that PB is an "echo chamber"
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:58 am to GRTiger
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:58 am to GRTiger
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An echo chamber is more about general diversity of opinion than censorship. You can force it but it doesn't have to be forced.
What people are confusing as an echo chamber are the many progressives that lurk, then lob in a grenade by making some outlandish statement and disappear. They aren't "forced" off of the board it's just that their positions cannot be debated when challenged, so they run and hide.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:12 am to TheQuestion
Here's what was actually said:
Stop trying to change words to make your points.
quote:
biased towards a political slant
Stop trying to change words to make your points.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:34 am to TheQuestion
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Dissenting voices are allowed.
You are confusing echo chamber with censorship. Echo chambers reinforce one’s own already held beliefs. This can be by censorship or other means such as overwhelming mob mentality. This place is the latter.
For example, CNN and Fox News are echo chambers. They bring on opposing panelist, but they are there as punching bags and are always outnumbered by pundits and hosts with other beliefs. Hence, echo chamber to confirm an already held belief.
Here, any non conservative view point is quickly downvoted to oblivion and met with memes such as “you get what you vote for”, “go woke go broke”, “filthy prog”, “groomer”, etc. which only confirms everyone’s already held belief entrenching everyone in deeper and deeper political tribalism. Hence, echo chamber.
You can go to a liberal leaning thread on Reddit and post your conservative viewpoint without censorship. You will thusly be downvoted and called all kinds of names and just come back here saying it’s an echo chamber even though you weren’t censored. And you’d be right.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:37 am to Suntiger
Yeah, you pretty much summed it up. The OT isn’t much better with anything resembling middle or left leaning views. I haven’t been to the money board in a while but it seemed to be an extension of the PB also.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:14 pm to NawlinsTiger9
quote:So you're saying that there has NEVER been a post made by a conservative that was free from bias? Every post was biased. Whoa
it's bias
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:15 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:24 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:I have made the same point from the beginning. What words did I "change"?
Stop trying to change words to make your points.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:57 pm to Suntiger
quote:Censorship is necessary for an echo chamber to exist, as in no dissenting voices. Hence, "echo"
You are confusing echo chamber with censorship
quote:Right, because of censorship. Dissenting views are not allowed and thus, members don't get their views challenged.
Echo chambers reinforce one’s own already held beliefs
quote:Wrong. A majority does not constitute an echo chamber because dissenting voices are still allowed. You're making this wayyyyy harder than it is.
This can be by censorship or other means such as overwhelming mob mentality
quote:Thus proving PB is not an echo chamber. If it were, there would be no dissenting voices to downvote.
Here, any non conservative view point is quickly downvoted to oblivion and met with memes such as “you get what you vote for”, “go woke go broke”, “filthy prog”, “groomer”
quote:No, the people just aren't convinced by the emotional stupidity offered in response to facts, data and rationality. But they were still allowed to present their case, no matter how banal and vapid it is.
which only confirms everyone’s already held belief entrenching everyone in deeper and deeper political tribalism
quote:Plenty of people claim dissenting voices are not allowed on reddit/DU/etc. They have been banned, posts censored, etc.
You can go to a liberal leaning thread on Reddit and post your conservative viewpoint without censorship
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