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re: Accusation that PB is an "echo chamber"

Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:58 am to
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
5053 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:58 am to
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An echo chamber is more about general diversity of opinion than censorship. You can force it but it doesn't have to be forced.



What people are confusing as an echo chamber are the many progressives that lurk, then lob in a grenade by making some outlandish statement and disappear. They aren't "forced" off of the board it's just that their positions cannot be debated when challenged, so they run and hide.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 5:12 am to
Here's what was actually said:

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biased towards a political slant


Stop trying to change words to make your points.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36200 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 6:34 am to
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Dissenting voices are allowed.


You are confusing echo chamber with censorship. Echo chambers reinforce one’s own already held beliefs. This can be by censorship or other means such as overwhelming mob mentality. This place is the latter.

For example, CNN and Fox News are echo chambers. They bring on opposing panelist, but they are there as punching bags and are always outnumbered by pundits and hosts with other beliefs. Hence, echo chamber to confirm an already held belief.

Here, any non conservative view point is quickly downvoted to oblivion and met with memes such as “you get what you vote for”, “go woke go broke”, “filthy prog”, “groomer”, etc. which only confirms everyone’s already held belief entrenching everyone in deeper and deeper political tribalism. Hence, echo chamber.

You can go to a liberal leaning thread on Reddit and post your conservative viewpoint without censorship. You will thusly be downvoted and called all kinds of names and just come back here saying it’s an echo chamber even though you weren’t censored. And you’d be right.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35912 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:37 am to
Yeah, you pretty much summed it up. The OT isn’t much better with anything resembling middle or left leaning views. I haven’t been to the money board in a while but it seemed to be an extension of the PB also.
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:14 pm to
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it's bias
So you're saying that there has NEVER been a post made by a conservative that was free from bias? Every post was biased. Whoa
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:15 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 4:19 pm
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:24 pm to
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Stop trying to change words to make your points.

I have made the same point from the beginning. What words did I "change"?
Posted by TheQuestion
Member since May 2023
202 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 4:57 pm to
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You are confusing echo chamber with censorship
Censorship is necessary for an echo chamber to exist, as in no dissenting voices. Hence, "echo"

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Echo chambers reinforce one’s own already held beliefs
Right, because of censorship. Dissenting views are not allowed and thus, members don't get their views challenged.

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This can be by censorship or other means such as overwhelming mob mentality
Wrong. A majority does not constitute an echo chamber because dissenting voices are still allowed. You're making this wayyyyy harder than it is.

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Here, any non conservative view point is quickly downvoted to oblivion and met with memes such as “you get what you vote for”, “go woke go broke”, “filthy prog”, “groomer”
Thus proving PB is not an echo chamber. If it were, there would be no dissenting voices to downvote.

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which only confirms everyone’s already held belief entrenching everyone in deeper and deeper political tribalism
No, the people just aren't convinced by the emotional stupidity offered in response to facts, data and rationality. But they were still allowed to present their case, no matter how banal and vapid it is.

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You can go to a liberal leaning thread on Reddit and post your conservative viewpoint without censorship
Plenty of people claim dissenting voices are not allowed on reddit/DU/etc. They have been banned, posts censored, etc.
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