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re: Abortion from a Republican woman's perspective...
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Discussing abortion as a personal-moral-religious or socio-political issue are 2 very, very different things.
Only if you consider socio-political issues as not having any correlation with personal/moral/religious development.
Which obviously is not the case (particular in America).
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Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:47 pm to Oescron
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Ask God what it is. He said.” I knew you before I even formed you in your mothers womb “. Don’t think he would say that about an inanimate blob !!!
You already posted this once. Not everybody has the same beliefs as you.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:47 pm to i am dan
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Purposefully taking the life of a human being is murder.
That body growing inside the mom's body is a human being.
The 2nd statement is where people disagree.
You're just framing the argument to eliminate discussion.
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Just admit abortion is allowed murder based on if a mother wants her child or not.
Only when the cells become a human. We don't know what that point is, or else the discussion would be easy and a consensus would be easy to reach
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:47 pm to madamtiger
wall of text about whores and some such... how about this...
Should we allow the impregnator to demand an abortion since it might ruin his life? Let's have some equal rights here.
If you want your abortion, go vote for it in your state, that's how it works now.
Actually, we should embrace it and let the lefty loons go wild on themselves, self remedy is the best solution long term.
Should we allow the impregnator to demand an abortion since it might ruin his life? Let's have some equal rights here.
If you want your abortion, go vote for it in your state, that's how it works now.
Actually, we should embrace it and let the lefty loons go wild on themselves, self remedy is the best solution long term.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:47 pm to madamtiger
What?
Women’s Hope Medical Clinic
Women’s Hope Medical Clinic
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:47 pm to madamtiger
1. Rape, incest or if woman’s life is in danger and the pregnancy is early enough (10 weeks or earlier) should be allowed. If after 10 weeks and your life is in danger you should carry it until it can survive outside the womb if possible (about 22weeks). I mean at least give the baby a chance.
2. Abortion should not be a birth control because… oopsies .
Stats: leading cause of death in USA is heart disease at about 700k deaths per year.
Abortions in the USA are about 1.1 million per year.
There are not 1.1 million rapes, incests and women’s lives in danger. Probably a very very small fraction.
2. Abortion should not be a birth control because… oopsies .
Stats: leading cause of death in USA is heart disease at about 700k deaths per year.
Abortions in the USA are about 1.1 million per year.
There are not 1.1 million rapes, incests and women’s lives in danger. Probably a very very small fraction.
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:48 pm to Tigers0891
Fine….I’ll give you that it’s a small minority. But since it is, why not carve out an exception always for rape or incest?
I’ll get roasted for this but I’m speaking for any women when I say that it seems that our life is only worthy until there is a fertilized egg inside. Against our will? So what. I really wanted to touch on that part because I even if it’s a small percentage, wh not talk about how to make it easier for those women or children to navigate that?
I’ll get roasted for this but I’m speaking for any women when I say that it seems that our life is only worthy until there is a fertilized egg inside. Against our will? So what. I really wanted to touch on that part because I even if it’s a small percentage, wh not talk about how to make it easier for those women or children to navigate that?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:49 pm to i am dan
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That body growing inside the mom's body is a human being.
Not everyone believes this and they are entitled to their opinion.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:49 pm to Broke
Typing too fast lol
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:49 pm to tigersmanager
quote:you’d force your daughter to birth a rapists baby?
it's murder
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:50 pm to madamtiger
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Calling women whores and sluts that need their consequences...should have kept their legs closed is usually not equally thrown out about the man that also helped create the pregnancy.
The law already holds men accountable for creating babies, though.
Besides, men and women are different. A key that can open any lock is extremely valuable. A lock that can be opened by any key isn't valuable at all. Women control access to sex. Love it, hate it, whatever. That's just reality.
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Start talking about what we can do to support women who have an unplanned pregnancy.
Between healthcare, an education, and food, what else should society be on the hook for?
Also, what's the limiting factor that prevents this mindset to spilling over into other areas the general public has to open their wallets for?
Should we "start talking about what we can do to support" people who wreck their cars and don't have insurance?
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the men in this situation don't have any of this burden.
You had a point saying that most of the people here are men and don't see what women have to do, but then you fall into the exact same hole.
Tens of billions of dollars are paid in child support each year.
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And we can use the same old lines about court ordered child support. That doesn't always work.
Nothing "always works". Child support not "always working" doesn't justify your general attitude that men "don't share any of this burden".
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...not the men who screw them who are also whores.
I'm not going to argue that it's a healthy lifestyle. Men who have lots of casual sex should do better and hold themselves to higher standards. That said, it's actually an accomplishment for men to rack up dozens of partners. It's not an accomplishment for a woman to do that. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. That's why it's more of an insult to women than men.
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Pumping more unwanted kids into an overloaded system with parents having no consequences for neglecting or abusing kids has got to end.
It seems we have two options.
1.) Kill the babies.
2.) Advocate against promiscuity.
How much are we spending on #1?
How much are we spending on #2?
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I'm a teacher and I can't tell you how many kids over the years I have fed breakfast to each morning because mom doesn't give a crap and sperm donor didn't want to be a dad.They can't play sports or join clubs because they have to go home and watch siblings. I have watched these kids turn into criminals and drug addicts.
Seems it'd be better to abort repeat criminals then all children who are at risk of becoming one. Imagine how many children who are aborted who could have really been something?
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She would lose her entire life right now.
What do you think happens to the baby?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:50 pm to White Bear
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you’d force your daughter to birth a rapists baby?
Why would you judge the baby for the father's sins?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:The fact that people disagree doesn’t mean there isn’t a correct answer. It just means one side is wrong.
It may be. It may not be. Literally millions upon millions disagree on this. There isn't a specific answer to this question. If there was, the debate would be over.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:52 pm to madamtiger
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3 I truly believe in the exceptions. I have a daughter. She is a college athlete with a job that is very physically demanding. She pays all of her own bills outside of her college costs. I cannot imagine her being raped and impregnated and forced to make a baby with her rapist. She would lose her entire life right now. Its not merely an "inconvenience." Its life changing and can screw you up for life. She would lose her college life and definitely her job. For something she didn't deserve. I would love to see this board look at it from my daughter's point of view. Her life does matter. I don't know why that isn't talked about. The brushing off of rape and incest victims on here is a problem.
So what other kids can be killed because your daughter got raped?
Never understood why doubling the evil is so accepted
Your daughter could put the kid up for adoption
There are many people struggling with infertility enough that Trump is giving a massive handout because he thinks it could sway an election
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:52 pm to White Bear
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you’d force your daughter to birth a rapists baby?
Hell no he wouldn’t. Just a bunch of big mouths on this board that want to judge others.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:54 pm to madamtiger
quote:No argument there. Responsibilities run both ways.
BOTH need to be discussed.
quote:It has. But ask yourself this question, if one side can point to a definite point human life begins, it’s fully supported by science. One side goes “I don’t want that to be true, so I’ll ignore it”
2 The threads have been exhaustive about the unborn's life or lack of. It has been beaten to death.
How can you ever have a discussion about what is a reasonable solution if you can’t agree on that point? The truth must matter.
quote:Yep. When I was young teen pregnancy was extremely rare. Was it because no one was having sex? No, it’s because it was understood that pregnancy was a possible consequence and that had a lot of responsibility associated with it. My oldest sister was born 7 months after my parents married.
They just screw and then their problems start if that have to pay for a kid in nine months.
quote:Surprise, so do I. It would be nice if the exceptions were something we could actually discuss. Until we can address that 99% of them or so are simply a matter of inconvenience thats almost impossible.
#3 I truly believe in the exceptions.
Even in the exceptions it’s always the case where the child dies because of the abortion. Until that decision has that as a component how can you make an informed one?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:54 pm to White Bear
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you’d force your daughter to birth a rapists baby?
Oh wow, this teen has learned how to frame things in such a way that benefits their argument. How clever.
You'd allow a doctor to rip a live baby apart because of how it was conceived?
Gotcha!Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:57 pm to scottydoesntknow
Imagine thinking I’m complaining, lol.and nice deflection from the topic.
I got married when he was three and he was raised in a home with two siblings while he’s POS dad is a junkie with never any responsibility for his kid. Oh, and now he pays his dads bills because we raised right.So keep talking. It’s actually funny.
You are an example of why we need a special ed board.
I got married when he was three and he was raised in a home with two siblings while he’s POS dad is a junkie with never any responsibility for his kid. Oh, and now he pays his dads bills because we raised right.So keep talking. It’s actually funny.
You are an example of why we need a special ed board.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:58 pm to madamtiger
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