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re: Aborting Down syndrome babies
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:29 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:29 pm to Darth_Vader
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Once again I’ll ask for anything to support your position on this matter.
My position that it's not my decision to make for people? I can't imagine what it would be like to be in a position to have to make that decision. So I'm not going to sit here and say what they should do.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 3:30 pm
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:32 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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When it comes to life/death of an innocent, damn straight Imma make as much noise as I can to protect that life.
You do you, and I'll make as much noise as I can defending someone's right to choose even if I don't agree personally with it.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:32 pm to Usafgiles
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My position that it's not my decision to make for people? I can't imagine what it would be like to be in a position to have to make that decision. So I'm not going to sit here and say what they should do.
But what about letting the unborn child decide? Is the person who decides to abort that child not making that decision for them? What gives them right to say that life can be ended?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:32 pm to Dignan
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Conversely, by you telling a woman she can't have an abortion, aren't you restricting her pursuit of happiness?
Every pursuit of happiness has consequences.
Actions have consequences.
She pursued her happiness by having sex. Pursuit isn't indefinite and consequence free.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:45 pm to Darth_Vader
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As for rape and incest, I’m truly sorry for the victim. And I hope she gets all help available. But it’s not the baby’s fault. You can’t punish an innocent child for the crime of someone else. And killing that unborn child will not serve justice to anyone
You would honestly look your daughter in the eye after she had been violently raped by some thug and tell her you dont want her taking a plan b pill?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:50 pm to ThuperThumpin
He wouldn't, but it makes him feel good to sit here on a message board atop his high horse.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 3:55 pm to Usafgiles
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He wouldn't, but it makes him feel good to sit here on a message board atop his high horse.
I'm not trying to playa gotcha game with him. I find those with his point of view are genuinely good folks that care about the unborn but there is lot of gray area to this issue and choices arent always simple.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:07 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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She pursued her happiness by having sex. Pursuit isn't indefinite and consequence free.
pretty naive view on it. Premarital sex is the norm now, granpda.
I don't really stand on either side firmly on this issue, but something to think about. If you force someone who doesn't want a baby to have one, what kind of life you think that baby is gonna have?
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:08 pm to Usafgiles
quote:That's fine. Do you support abortion in the vast majority of instances where rape, incest, and the life of the mother are not in play?
because darth said the ONLY case he would support it was in the interest of the life of the mother.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:09 pm to FooManChoo
I support someone's right to make that decision for themselves up to a certain point in the pregnancy, yes.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:12 pm to Usafgiles
quote:Would you support the right of a parent to kill their born child if the family would be better off (financially or otherwise)?
I support someone's right to make that decision for themselves up to a certain point in the pregnancy, yes.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:13 pm to FooManChoo
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Would you support the right of a parent to kill their born child if the family would be better off (financially or otherwise)?
this is dumb and you should feel bad.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:13 pm to FooManChoo
nope, next.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:13 pm to AU_251
quote:It's not a dumb question. I'm trying to isolate the key principle he's using to justify his position.
this is dumb and you should feel bad.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:14 pm to Usafgiles
quote:Why not?
nope, next.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:17 pm to FooManChoo
because if I don't support it after a certain point in the pregnancy (see my last post) why would I support killing a child?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:19 pm to ThuperThumpin
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You would honestly look your daughter in the eye after she had been violently raped by some thug and tell her you dont want her taking a plan b pill?
God forbid that ever happened, I’d not have to tell her to no because I am raising her to know that all human life is precious and we do not have the right to end it. Whether she keeps the child or putvit up for adoption would be up to her unless she was legally too young to decide for herself.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:19 pm to Usafgiles
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He wouldn't, but it makes him feel good to sit here on a message board atop his high horse
Again you’re full of shite.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:20 pm to Brazos
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Quality of life for the parents you mean? A person with downs knows no different so it basically boils down to the parents not wanting to "deal with it".
Which honestly is a fair concern. I have no idea when they can detect down syndrome, but if it's early enough and the parents decide they want to abort then that's their business. It might seem abhorrent to some, and I'm sure it's a tough decision for anyone to make, but at the end of the day that's their call to make. And quality of life of the parent is a fair component of that call.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 4:20 pm to Darth_Vader
her getting an abortion would also be up to her and there is nothing you could do about it.
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