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re: 54% of the cell phones at Kamala's Nevada rally were also at her Arizona rally

Posted on 9/19/24 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by montana
Bozeman, MT
Member since Dec 2008
1572 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 7:42 pm to
My friend’s office overlooks the Bo Jangles Center. Spoke with him last Thursday. Asked him how the Kamala rally was that day.

He had no idea there was an event. Took a few minutes before he believed me.

Said the Trump rally 2 months before was so insane, he spent 5 hours driving home.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 7:49 pm to
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Nope, you agree to it when you use many apps and agree to location services.


Google has adservices built into Chrome, and Android.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:07 pm to
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Thanks for all the details. My knowledge was based on the fact that I was offered geofencing as part of a marketing package. It was very clear: "You will be able to text messages to these cell phone numbers that were present at an event likely to contain promising leads."


Heya BillMatt.
As others have pointed out, yes... It should be considered illegal for the harvesting.
I'd wish it illegal for the sale.
The reality tho, is that it's right there in the user agreement of Google and apple. That we allow them to use data from the device for advertising purposes.
Use of the device is what is legally known as Implied Consent by the user of the device. Whether the user is aware of the UA or not.
Computer companies are notorious for using implied consent, when squirming out of warranty work.
Game decks like Sony, have implied consent that the user agrees to allowing Sony to brick their game decks. Because it's written there, in the UA.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
11589 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:30 pm to
They have much more than just tracking ability. Geo-fencing allows them to even know your spending habits. They don't know your name but they know everything else,
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10540 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:33 pm to
yea the guy that always claims to track everyone but never shows proof. trust him he also says hes a former spook! only real spooks say they used to be spooks!
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86388 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:33 pm to
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This seems like nonsense. I'm not saying her support isn't contrived, but who would have access to the cellphone tracking database? That seems like a huge legal issue.


I get it’s not exactly the same, but you can go request voter registration data so you can harass people with fricking mailers and what not.


Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25259 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:42 pm to
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These all have IPs, yes, but again, from a cybersecurity perspective, the necessary tech to do what Segura is claiming evades the top cybersecurity firms in the country and would require extralegal tools and enormous processing power that might only be available to alphabet agencies


That kind of data is not very complex. It's actually quite simple. >30 years ago with a dial up modem and a slow computer downloading and comparing it would have been a serious choke job. Now, a good home PC and a fiber connection make those comparisons entirely possible and relatively fast. A few thousand comparisons of such simple data doesn't take all that much power. And I'm sure there is an app for that too.

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86388 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:48 pm to
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And your point is? Are you trying to say no one is supporting Kamala because that is retarded. She has just as many ppl supporting her as Trump has. Yall need to open your eyes and understand how many idiots we have in this country who believe that Kamala is a better candidate than Trump.


Well her Hollywood team, script and production makes it seem like she’s popular and a decent candidate. So it makes people say oh yeah I’ll vote for her, all these people like her. But no one really likes her.



Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60285 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:53 pm to
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This can’t be legal and very likely completely made up nonsense.


The phones are tracked by a “masked” machine id, not the person or number.

Anyone, with enough money, can buy this data from third parties collected on almost any app on our phones.

This is how they tracked the mules dropping off illegal ballots.

Somebody forked up the money and plugged the data into power BI.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 8:54 pm
Posted by TheGoodNews
Member since Aug 2024
58 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:06 pm to
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That kind of data is not very complex. It's actually quite simple. >30 years ago with a dial up modem and a slow computer downloading and comparing it would have been a serious choke job. Now, a good home PC and a fiber connection make those comparisons entirely possible and relatively fast. A few thousand comparisons of such simple data doesn't take all that much power. And I'm sure there is an app for that too.



I'm speaking specifically to this particular aspect of Seruga's claims

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We own the digital ID of every mobile device/computer in the U.S. and have indexed and archived every IP address in the world.


And to this point, most mobile devices have dynamic IPs and he's made multiple claims in the past that he's tracking mobile devices specifically by IPs across different events.

Yes, an elastic search like Splunk or Graylog could easily handle sifting through the data generated by a few thousand IPs. But his tracking methodology doesn't really hold any water and his claims about what his infrastructure looks like and its capabilities are really boisterous and don't gel with the functionality limitations of known resources in the ballpark of what he's describing wrt worldwide IP information (like Shodan).

It's all really suspect, especially coupled his previous "predictions" and that his resume just looks like a lot of grifting.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23368 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:08 pm to
interesting, and I can believe it....
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