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2030 EC map(which states gain/lose EC votes)

Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:19 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:19 am
There are plenty of people who still dont understand how important this election was and how significant the choose of a very very strong VP candidate like JD was.

If trump can get half his agenda done and get the economy rolling like he has been given a mandate to do, it sets up JD for 2028.

This is so important because its the last election before the redrawing of the electoral college votes based on the change in population. If we can win in 2028 and run good candidates in 2032/2036.....we have a chance to hold the WH and house for a long long time and make real changes

below are the forecasted changes in the EC totals

Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50521 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:22 am to
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There are plenty of people who still dont understand how important this election was and how significant the choose of a very very strong VP candidate like JD was.

If trump can get half his agenda done and get the economy rolling like he has been given a mandate to do, it sets up JD for 2028.

Trump has to groom JD Vance throughout these four years because vice presidents rarely win when they run for president. I love Trump but he has to put aside some of his ego and give Vance a huge role and presence over the four years so the public can view Vance as a young, new generation of the movement. The public has to see him as a leader and bigger than the Vice President.

Do that and I believe he wins if/when he runs in 2028.

Combine Vance and DeSantis and boom, that's a strong arse ticket.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37904 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:23 am to
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Trump has to groom JD Vance throughout these four years because vice presidents rarely win when they run for president. I love Trump but he has to put aside some of his ego and give Vance a huge role and presence over the four years so the public can view Vance as a young, new generation of the movement. The public has to see him as a leader and bigger than the Vice President.

Do that and I believe he wins if/when he runs in 2028.

Combine Vance and DeSantis and boom, that's a strong arse ticket.


i agree and at this point...rather Ron stay Gov of Florida then a senator and let Vivek run with JD and Ron run after the terms are up.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19513 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:25 am to
Basically, you get +7 and -7 immediately for the GOP with FL and TX vs CA and NY. throw in Idaho, Utah and Tennessee +3, and GOP now needs one less swing state per election.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37904 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:29 am to
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Basically, you get +7 and -7 immediately for the GOP with FL and TX vs CA and NY. throw in Idaho, Utah and Tennessee +3, and GOP now needs one less swing state per election.


yep

and the overall trend is only going to continue and accelerate if the liberal continue to double down


and its funny.....so many in Texas, Florida, and Tenn were so worried about all the people moving from liberal states turning those state blue and bringing voting tendencies with them



turns out....the people moving to the SEC states are actually voting red at a higher clip then those that have been living in those states. Those states are getting more red with the new people moving in.

which is fricking great.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37904 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:44 am to
bump...people need to see this shite.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19513 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:18 am to
Using the actual election map, Harris would have accumulated 13 less votes, with Trump getting 13 more. To put that in perspective, here are the swing states

PA - 19 (will be 18)
NC - 16
GA - 16
MI - 15
AZ - 11 (will be 12)
WI - 10
NV - 6

Assuming all 7 are swing states after the redistricting, the GOP would have 231 to the Dems 214 before the swing states are acocunted for. To win the election, the GOP would only need to win 39 of the available 93 electroal votes from these 7 states, while the Dems would have to win 56.

The GOP could get to 270 simply by taking Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona. Essentially, they could get swept in the rustbelt and still win.
This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 11:22 am
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19946 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:20 am to
The economy only steadily went down from 2016 to 2020 before

Trump has somehow convinced y’all that tariffs will make things less expensive (they will make things more expensive)
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19513 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:21 am to
To put it another way, if the Dems swept the rustbelt states, it would only give them 43, which is 13 short of 270. They would need either need NC or Georgia, or Arizona/Wisconsin plus Nevada.

This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 11:24 am
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19513 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:22 am to
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The economy only steadily went down from 2016 to 2020 before

Trump has somehow convinced y’all that tariffs will make things less expensive (they will make things more expensive)


wrong thread commie
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19946 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:23 am to
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wrong thread commie

Show me some data that shows Trump improved the economy his first time around in office

And show me some data that shows Tariffs will somehow make the cost of goods go down

US retailers have already said that Trump’s policies will lead to an increase in the price of all goods across the board
This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 11:24 am
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6973 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:31 am to
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And show me some data that shows Tariffs will somehow make the cost of goods go down


I’m not sure anybody is saying that, but what tariffs WOULD do is create American jobs and tax revenue. We don’t need the rest of the world. They need US.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
25497 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:32 am to
That’s a ton of gains for R. Election would have been 100 pt. Next election will be a blowout if voter id laws are passed so illegals aren’t voting in the swing states they dumped them in
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5171 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:33 am to
If this happens, there would be an even larger shift for Republicans.

House of Representatives passes Edwards’ bill to only include U.S. citizens in congressional representation

quote:

Today the U.S. House of Representatives voted for and passed U.S. Congressman Chuck Edwards’ (NC-11) bill, the Equal Representation Act, by a vote of 206-202.

Edwards spoke on the House floor to highlight the need to protect America’s democracy and electoral integrity by making sure that only American citizens are counted when apportioning congressional seats and, consequently, Electoral College votes.


Immigration Shifts Political Power


quote:

Immigrants (legal and illegal) in the 2020 census shifted 17 House seats (and thus also 17 votes in the Electoral College). This estimate represents the cumulative impact of immigration, not just the change since the last census.

This situation in 2020 created a net gain of 14 seats (and electoral votes) for Democratic-leaning states due to the presence of immigrants in the census, while Republican states had 10 fewer seats and battleground states four fewer.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
25497 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:35 am to
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Trump has somehow convinced y’all that tariffs will make things less expensive (they will make things more expensive)
you need to break your conditioning and stop getting news spoon fed to you. If you had the brain capacity I’d urge you to listen to the Rogan interview where he explains how tariffs are used to get other countries to play ball and how he also talked about how tariffs could essentially be used to replace income taxes

As far as the topic at hand MAGA gains more than 10 EVs
This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 11:36 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37904 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Show me some data that shows Trump improved the economy his first time around in office

And show me some data that shows Tariffs will somehow make the cost of goods go down

US retailers have already said that Trump’s policies will lead to an increase in the price of all goods across the board


no shite on the tariffs but start another thread on that and i will school your arse in that thread

dont frick up my thread
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19946 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:43 am to
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how tariffs are used to get other countries to play ball and how he also talked about how tariffs could essentially be used to replace income taxes

Except this won’t happen because the US is WAY overestimating its bargaining power

You’re wrong. We do need those other countries because we don’t have the laws here to be able to produce things as cheaply

So all of the bargaining power on these tariffs belongs to the other countries because they have the cheap product that we require, and we can’t get it for cheap without them

But don’t take my word for it. You’ll see it in action
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37904 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:51 am to
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Using the actual election map, Harris would have accumulated 13 less votes, with Trump getting 13 more. To put that in perspective, here are the swing states

PA - 19 (will be 18)
NC - 16
GA - 16
MI - 15
AZ - 11 (will be 12)
WI - 10
NV - 6

Assuming all 7 are swing states after the redistricting, the GOP would have 231 to the Dems 214 before the swing states are acocounted for. To win the election, the GOP would only need to win 39 of the available 93 electroal votes from these 7 states, while the Dems would have to win 56.

The GOP could get to 270 simply by taking Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona. Essentially, they could get swept in the rustbelt and still win.


yep...this is going to change everything
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19946 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 12:15 pm to
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I’m not sure anybody is saying that, but what tariffs WOULD do is create American jobs and tax revenue. We don’t need the rest of the world. They need US.

I mean this just isn’t true. If we don’t have the cheap product created by cheap labor in other countries then the price of everything goes up

If the price of everything goes up, then no one can afford anything, even worse than already

If no one can afford anything, no one can buy anything and the economy collapses, because the economy doesn’t exist without people purchasing things
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19513 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 1:48 pm to
Why are you talking about tariffs in an EC thread?
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