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re: 2014 May = warmest on record.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:22 am to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:22 am to SpidermanTUba
The Northern Hemisphere says thanks. 
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:23 am to Bamadiver
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Care to compare temperature accuracies between mercury-based devices and platinum?
You think NASA is unable to adjust for those differences, or do you just outright think they are liars?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:23 am to Lg
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Who and what instrument did they use to measure carbon dioxide 800,000 years ago? Please elaborate. From what I understand we haven't been recording this kind of data but for about the last 100-150 years.
They take ice cores and measure the Co2 in the bubbles of air trapped in the cores.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:23 am to SpidermanTUba
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According to new data released this week, May 2014 is officially the warmest May in recorded history.
I find this hard to believe. This has been the coolest may I can remember in a long time. And yes, I do realize that I am only compairing SE La over the years.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:23 am to SpidermanTUba
double standard
you say that 2014 is warmest on record we would pull out something that says x month in x year is warmest on record and you come pu with some crap saying it doesn't matter.
edit: did you not see the worst winter in decades in the united states this past year? How often does New Orleans have two days of major closures due to ice on the roads. ALMOST NEVER.
you say that 2014 is warmest on record we would pull out something that says x month in x year is warmest on record and you come pu with some crap saying it doesn't matter.
edit: did you not see the worst winter in decades in the united states this past year? How often does New Orleans have two days of major closures due to ice on the roads. ALMOST NEVER.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 9:27 am
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:24 am to SpidermanTUba
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2014 May = warmest on record.
Dude...so "skyrocketing electricity" is the answer? Sending a check to Third World despots to deposit in their account will stop the warming? Authoritarian World Socialism (herding cats on a macro scale) will fix this stuff?
Buddy, just what are the chances that major climate changing and radical population altering seismic activity of the sort in the historical record will occur within the next 50 years? Damn high, book it.
We've got Graham Negative bacteria making anti-biotics obsolete. Virus mutating; and fools screwing with those mutations in hopes of employing them militarily.
Our real hope depend upon our economic stability and it's financing of market-based innovation. Knock the economy down...anarchy in the streets...we're done. Not that the volcano or asteroid won't do their thing regardless.
I love this Earth, with all my heart. I worship Beauty. And the Spirit. And I've hugged plenty of trees (hugged on in Caddo Lake last week).
But you need to get off the Al Gore bandwagon. And the Authoritarian Socialist who use the AGW meme to push their high-minded version of 'social justice'. Because neither God, nor Mother Nature agrees with or will long support it. God may remain hands off (for some)...but Mother Nature and her (Darwinian) enforcer...won't.
Geez.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:24 am to CollegeFBRules
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These posts are why you guys get cast in a terrible light. You can read the carbon in the atmosphere for millions of years by ice core sampling permafrost.
Sometimes I can't figure out if they're genuinely ignorant of how basic science is done - or if they think the ice core data is also a big conspiracy to get them to buy a hybrid.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 9:25 am
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:24 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:Then you don't know how to read a graph. Look closely, Dr. Physics. From the low line (light yellow) on the graph around 850-900 AD to its high point around 1,000-1,050 AD there is an approximate 1 degree increase.
I'm not seeing it.
From your link:
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How does the Medieval Warm Period compare to current global temperatures?
The Medieval Warm Period saw warm conditions over a large part of the North Atlantic, Southern Greenland, the Eurasian Arctic, and parts of North America. In these regions, temperature appears to be warmer than the 1961–1990 baseline. In some areas, temperatures were even as warm as today.
"the period from around AD 830 to 1100 generally encompassed a sustained warm interval in all four Northern Hemisphere regions. In South America and Australasia, a sustained warm period occurred later, from around AD 1160 to 1370."
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:25 am to JOJO Hammer
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What about giving tax credit and tax breaks to companies that choose to reduce carbon emmisions on their own?
This is the sensible approach. Now, who here is willing to pay higher taxes as a middle ground to not losing jobs in one fell swoop while also doing your part to reduce carbon emissions?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:30 am to CollegeFBRules
quote:I would NOT label them liars. Unless they presented their correction factors as absolutes. Without calibration information, you'd be limited in your analytics with regards to accuracy to only the temps recorded. Any adjustments applied are educated guesses AT BEST.
You think NASA is unable to adjust for those differences, or do you just outright think they are liars?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:31 am to Bamadiver
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Care to compare temperature accuracies between mercury-based devices and platinum?
The Hg thermometer has a tolerance of +/- 0.5 C. Platinum thermometers it depends on the model, I'm I'm not mistaken the worst is like +/- 0.3 C but they can make them far more accurate than that
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:31 am to CollegeFBRules
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This is the sensible approach. Now, who here is willing to pay higher taxes as a middle ground to not losing jobs in one fell swoop while also doing your part to reduce carbon emissions?
frick that, I pay enough taxes. Maybe the 47% who don't pay taxes should start paying their fair share.
Democraps won't go for a tax credit. They need money to buy the votes of the 47% free loaders.
But, if companies are give tax break/credits for reducing carbon emmisions why would they need to cut jobs?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:32 am to Bamadiver
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I would NOT label them liars. Unless they presented their correction factors as absolutes. Without calibration information, you'd be limited in your analytics with regards to accuracy to only the temps recorded. Any adjustments applied are educated guesses AT BEST.
Fair enough.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:33 am to JOJO Hammer
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Does this really solve the problem? How do we put a carbon cap and trade on china, india, or other developing nations?
We don't. They'll have to do it themselves. Or sign an international agreement.
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What about giving tax credit and tax breaks to companies that choose to reduce carbon emmisions on their own?
Under cap and trade, they can sell their unused allocation for whatever the market can bear. Are you suggesting that government would be a better determiner of the price of those credits than the market?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:34 am to JOJO Hammer
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I find this hard to believe. This has been the coolest may I can remember in a long time.
Oh. Well OK then. If its the coolest may you can remember I guess that settles it.
Gee - it kinda looks like the Sun goes around the Earth, doesn't it?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:34 am to CollegeFBRules
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This is the sensible approach. Now, who here is willing to pay higher taxes as a middle ground to not losing jobs in one fell swoop while also doing your part to reduce carbon emissions?
Not me. Because I'm not an idiot and I know that even if global warming were real, taxes will do absolutely zero to stop it. Next question.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:35 am to SpidermanTUba
Just keep pretending I didn't bitch slap you with your own link. 
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:35 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:You are correct, with regards to modern technology. I see google is your friend.
The Hg thermometer has a tolerance of +/- 0.5 C. Platinum thermometers it depends on the model, I'm I'm not mistaken the worst is like +/- 0.3 C but they can make them far more accurate than that
Now apply this to pre-modern measurments. Would you agree that the + in .05 is the more likely? Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:35 am to catholictigerfan
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you say that 2014 is warmest on record we would pull out something that says x month in x year is warmest on record and you come pu with some crap saying it doesn't matter.
Uhh. OK. Link?
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edit: did you not see the worst winter in decades in the united states this past year?
Do you actually understand what the term "global" means?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:36 am to SpidermanTUba
And it was very nice here in S La.
The temp didn't hit 90 til late may or early June.
Keep it coming.
The temp didn't hit 90 til late may or early June.
Keep it coming.
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