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re: ? Is there any advantage to volunteering to enlist instead of

Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
32159 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:23 pm to
You don’t have to speculate.

Just go to SSS.gov
Posted by The Tiger322
Member since Dec 2019
3167 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:38 pm to
I looked into that though I am still not clear on the matter as I only see information regarding undergraduates. Medical school would be grad school and thus possibly subject to different rules and the like and I'm curious as to what that may look like, I may also be overthinking it but any clarity helps.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9546 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 7:23 am to
At the beginning of the year, the complete list was drawn.

If you were smart, having a low number, you went in right away, choosing the branch you wanted. Canon fodder or something else.

Our number, in the final draft, was posted in the Military papers ( we were stationed in Tokyo) on December of the previous year.

We were informed “this is it, end of the draft, numbers for the next two years. My number was 286. I wasn’t going anywhere but Auburn.

Kids that had low numbers went and enlisted in the Air Force and Coast Guard.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299520 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 7:31 am to
quote:

Guys who enlisted went Air Force or Navy during the Vietnam era.



Or Reserves


Had an Uncle in college at the time, he joined the Guard.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
3436 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:44 am to
I did HPSP. There are certain things they don’t tell you about.

1. U will make a lot less money in the military than u would in private practice depending on your specialty. U have to weigh the cost of med school versus lost work time and salary differential in private practice. I lost a lot more salary by doing military than I gained in them paying for school.

2. U don’t have as much say in your specialty as they would lead u to believe. The military’s s needs come first, remember that. Say you want to go into derm, well they only allow 2 a year to go into it. Good luck getting that when they award points to prior service guys and active duty. You will be pushed into flight medicine instead.

3. Say u get your specialty u want but want into a fellowship. Same rules apply. I had a Neuro radiology fellowship lined up and was told by the military to not waste my time applying that I would never beat out the other 2 applicants because one was an academy grad and the other prior AD with multiple years in.

3. Your skills will atrophy in the military. I along with other physicians I served with were told to work less hard because we were making the others look bad. Think about that for a second. They set a minimum number of studies to read or patients and all u have to do is hit that mark.

4. Endless DEI and other BS PowerPoints to review.

The carrot of paying for med school is nice but there are a lot of trade offs. In fact me accepting the HPSP spot was a mistake.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
21954 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:49 am to
ASVAB used to only be good for 2 yrs. Still good to take it in high school though.

If you try to join after it expires you have to take it again.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76468 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:56 am to
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it's going to be hard to find many who qualify for service.


They will hit the numbers no matter how.












Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
21954 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:59 am to
quote:

There are so many boys on ADHD meds these days it's going to be hard to find many who qualify for service.


When they want to get you in the rules will be changed or waivers will be granted.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11009 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 9:00 am to
This dad was very aware of the draft process in the 60's. The draft boards were local parish/county offices that you could appeal to and have a reasonable discussion. This new FED registration of young people centralizes the process allowing the DC swamp to pick winners and losers
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
21954 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 9:01 am to
The people with connections will be coded in the system to be skipped over or given cushy jobs.

Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3354 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:08 am to
Other than a full fledge invasion. I wouldn't fight for a country that hates my very existence. Especially just to spread globohomo around the world for a bunch of corrupt warmongers who care more about foreign policy than taking care of it's own citizens.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
3436 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:21 am to
Bingo!

I, in part, joined because I had this patriotic vision of what the US military stood for. I quickly found out it is an adult daycare.

I would die for my children and fellow American. But, I’m not not gonna give up my life for someone to make more money on their MIC stocks or for a foreign country.
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
5656 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

avoiding being a grunt

tell us that youre afraid of a challenge without telling us that youre a pussy
the Corps is looking for a few good men
obviously you aint it…
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
3436 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:05 pm to
I volunteered and served but I’m not too keen on fricking sacrificing my kids for the pieces of shite running our country at the behest of other nations.

If you want your kids to die for them then go right ahead. frick off
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24005 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 4:35 pm to
The difference between the olden days and now is people withdrew from college to volunteer for service in WWII. By the time Viet Nam rolled around one stayed in college to avoid being drafted. If the world broke out into a serious war I'm not sure the government would allow pussy footing around service and the draft. I'm sure if one got a degree they would find their way into the officer corps. At least if you can volunteer, you can pick a service. During WWII, my mother was an Army nurse and my father went to the Merchant Marines through the Navy and was a radio operator. Dad couldn't quality for pilot training and he didn't want to slog through the battle fields. So he chose to learn another language, Morse Code. He sailed all over the world in the Atlantic and Pacific in WWII.
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