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Posted on 12/30/18 at 9:35 am
Posted by Gumbaw
Member since May 2018
560 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 9:35 am
Researching a ton of DIY underground drainage pipes. Initially I was leaning towards a French drain, but now I’m thinking that a pop up drain connected to the gutter spouts is the way to go. The ditch surrounding the property fills up fast and the pop up drain would get the rain away from the house quicker. Anyone have any experiences or tips? Does the popup drain’s pipe need a downward slope to function?
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
996 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 10:19 am to
Rent/borrow laser transit. Dig trench to ditch with fall. Verify fall with transit every 10ft. Use sock pipe for drain. Add catch basins where needed and about every 50ft for future maintenance. Backfill with road gravel and top with mason sand. Win!
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 10:22 am to
Would surface grading be a better option?
This post was edited on 12/30/18 at 5:54 pm
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 10:26 am to
How far from your house yo the ditch?
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 11:54 am to
I'm confused as what your issue is.

Are you trying to get water away from your house into the ditch?

Or does the ditch not have enough volume to keep the water from backing up near your house?

If the first, your drain system to the ditch will work. If the second, you may want to rent/hire an excavator to expand your ditch.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18285 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Anyone have any experiences or tips?


Sell house buy new one without drainage problems.
Posted by Gumbaw
Member since May 2018
560 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 1:27 pm to
Basically trying to get the bulk of the rainwater to the ditch the quickest way possible. It’s a 150’ run from the starting point to the ditch. Gutter downspout at the beginning and a catch basin midway. My main concern is if I will be able to achieve adequate slope. Probably overthinking it, but I want to get it right the first time.
Posted by GaDawg9977
Member since Aug 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 1:32 pm to
Use smooth wall drain pipe and you won’t need much fall at all.
Posted by Gumbaw
Member since May 2018
560 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 2:06 pm to
Thinking that’s what I’ll do. Should I put gravel at the bottom of the trench?
Posted by GaDawg9977
Member since Aug 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 2:22 pm to
No need for gravel with solid pipe. Gravel is only providing extra storage space if using perforated pipe/leaching system.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 2:40 pm to
Not directing this to you but a lesson to any yungens reading this- when you build a house, when you think you have the pad high enough, go at least 6 inches higher. I did mine 21. If my truck is in neutral in the driveway, it will roll out.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 3:15 pm to
If it was me, and money wasn't a huge concern, I'd use a smooth wall pipe tying all of my downspouts and a couple of yard inlets to the ditch. Remember you want a minimum fall of 1/100. So if your run is 150' you need to have your outflow a minimum of 1.5' below where your run starts after you tie all of your inlets together.

I'd probably also bury everything at least 12" below grade.

A trencher is worth the money to rent.
Posted by 24nights
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2012
4785 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 5:29 pm to
Some of the best advice I’ve heard on here..
Posted by GaDawg9977
Member since Aug 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 5:42 pm to
If you can’t get fall all the way to the ditch NDS makes a product called a flow well which basically gives you under ground storage that leaches out. Multiple units can be linked together for additional capacity. [link=(Www.ndspro.com)]NDS[/link]

They aren’t the cheapest but work well if fall is an issue and will at least get it away from the house. I work for the largest landscape supply company in the US and we have locations nationally where these can be purchased. If you post your location I can find our closest location to you.
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
996 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 7:57 pm to
A sump pump works well too but it needs electricity obviously. There are kits for around $400. The slick stain pipe does work but corrugated sock pipe back filled with gravel allows the whole line to absorb moisture and not just the catch basins.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15821 posts
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:02 pm to
Slope the yard in the direction you want it to drain
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41634 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 8:56 am to
I have the same problem. My back yard and front yard both hold water really bad but my kid plays in the back yard a lot so I installed a drainage system from the lowest areas of the back yard with the pop up emitter emptying into a trench that I dug about 30 feet to a parish-installed drain near the road. I didn't slope it correctly so it worked only to a certain extent but then the water stayed at a certain level. With all the recent rain last week I removed the pop up emitter to expose just the black flexible drain pipe and dug the trench it empties into deeper to allow it to drain better. Problem is I now have a trench about a foot deep across 30 feet of my yard and it looks like crap. I'll probably buy some more flexible drainage pipe to connect it to the parish-installed drain and bury it soon.

After I did all that, I redug the parish-installed ditch that my trench drains into. I've asked the parish multiple times to come clean it out and redig it but they keep ignoring me so I took matters into my own hands. I spent the better part of Saturday, in the rain, cleaning and digging that ditch with a shovel and rake. Got it all draining very efficiently now.

Sometimes if you want things done you just have to do it yourself.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 8:57 am
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14061 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:25 am to
I put a sump in. Washed a line under my driveway and turned and ran it to the road 180'. Cut a slot in the curb at the road to run pipe through.

Works amazing.

Put in a few catchbasins with the sock drain into the sump basin. Float switch operation. You have to have a check valve as well.

I removed the pump ever few months and clean basin and the float. Got a good cast iron trash pump for leaves and debris.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:39 am to
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Rent/borrow laser transit. Dig trench to ditch with fall. Verify fall with transit every 10ft. Use sock pipe for drain. Add catch basins where needed and about every 50ft for future maintenance. Backfill with road gravel and top with mason sand. Win!

Ok but I want to hire someone to do that.

Who does that for residential? I assume those laser leveling folks are mostly commercial or work with contractors.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 10:40 am
Posted by Thedirkdiggler13
Very near
Member since Sep 2017
225 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:44 pm to
I work for a commercial const co We do drainage all the time. I have all my gutters in my back yard draining underground and added a couple small catch basins it works great
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 6:47 am
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